
No.
And yes.
It depends on how you do it.
Some people do it horrendously wrong.
Let’s take a look.
Curiosity-Click Traffic is Crap
If one of your primary traffic strategies is to leave fast comments on the posts of larger blogs in your niche just to get a few clicks from the passing traffic, stop. You could get more traffic from one piece of stellar content than months of that type of comment strategy.
And without good content, there’s no reason to attract a few “curiosity clicks” anyway. What’s going to make them stick around after the click if your content sucks?
Nothing.
Plus, the root motivation for those curiosity clicks is often bad to begin with. The nature of the game makes it that way.
Many new bloggers take the misguided approach of trying to be the first or second comment on every post of a larger blog. They do this because those positions in the comment stream get the most click-throughs, all other things being equal.
The problem is, in the rush for “first,” the resulting comments are often incoherent and banal. Sometimes it’s quite clear the commenter didn’t read the post, or missed the entire point in the hurry for top position.
So any curiosity clicks are usually motivated by “I wonder just how bad this bozo’s blog is going to be?” It’s true… lame blogs are entertainment for the rest of us.
So, is commenting on blogs worthless?
Nope. In fact, you can actually attract that traffic you want via a smart commenting strategy.
How Comments Can Lead to Real Traffic
So, we’ve established that great content is rule number one. Without it, all traffic to your blog is pretty much a waste.
Beyond that, the secret to blog comments that ultimately lead to traffic establish…
…relationships.
Shocking, I know.
Think about it. It’s no secret that many of the people who comment on blogs are also bloggers. They simply have more motivation to take the time to comment.
So when you meaningfully participate in the community aspect of a blog, you’re creating meaningful relationships with people who can send you significant traffic—bloggers and other active social media users.
Getting links, re-tweets, social media votes and bookmarks… this is the way that content spreads. This is the way you get real traffic that actually matters.
This doesn’t entail kissing up to the blog owner (most of us hate strategic-sounding praise). What it means is creating a network that provides the payoff for all the effort you’ve put into your content.
It takes time, but at least it actually works.
Can’t I be First and Fabulous?
I have seen some people who manage to leave exquisite, meaningful comments who also routinely score the first or second position. But I don’t recommend it.
Watching your feed reader or tweet stream that closely throughout the day has got to be distracting. Maybe I’m not as good a multi-tasker, but I find that the higher level of singular focus I place on content development, the better the content turns out.
But that’s just my opinion.
So, what do you think? Am I right, wrong, or middling?
It’s also no secret that Copyblogger readers are a cut above the rest of the crowd. So please leave an exquisite, meaningful comment.
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first!
First!!!
So predictable. Seriously, I had not one doubt.
Great points. What about the spammy comments where the person (or bot) says something totally unrelated to the post in an attempt to drive traffic? Like in response to this post I might write “I stumbled on this blog and I love your content, especially the article about how to roast a turkey. I will definately be back!”
In all seriousness, this makes me feel less bad about the bad job I do of commenting on other folks blogs. It’s nothing personal, just time constraints and pure laziness.
Sometimes (not often) it is possible to be “First and Fabulous?”. What you have to remember is the people this is going to work best for are A) those with something to offer and B) small current audiences.
You might not be impressed with a hundred new visitors, but there are tons of blogs out there who get fewer than that on a daily basis, so there is an obvious payoff there.
Plus, sometimes getting in early is fun
Now would I use it as my main method? Of course not, but there are other benefits. Networking and relationships, you mentioned. Then there is “name awareness” for the community.
Writing a comment gets you writing – getting your wheels turning, and sometimes a long comment can be copied and pasted over to your own blog to become a great post.
So just commenting is good, commenting early is good, and sometimes there are additional benefits.
I think all bloggers should comment. It’s just a good thing to do.
Fourth! Does that make my comment less banal?
Wise words from Chris G as expected.
David, no… but only because you’re actually 6th.
Great — I love it when the “get rich quick” method is unwrapped, revealing a very ordinary one that’s not quick, but works.
I think you’re very right. Commenting on blogs isn’t worthless; I’ve found a lot of fun, new blogs by reading the comments sections on the blogs I already read. If somebody is consistently making good, funny, and/or insightful comments, I’ll probably start checking out their blog as well. The comments that bring down the comments section are the short, brainless ones, like: “Ooh, great post, LOL,” “U sound stupid,” or, even worse, “First!”
Really, how are you supposed to have a conversation with that?
I think that blog commenting many not be a super sophisticated way of building traffic, but it does work and it’s very easy to get started with… and it costs nothing but time and a few brain cells. It can work better than social media traffic in some cases. (Example: I got a story on the top banner of the home page of Mixx where it got 46 votes but only sent 35 unique visitors… but I have gotten over 200 visitors from a TechCrunch comment before.
Therefore I recommend blog commenting to beginners and people who have boring topics that may not be able to get more than a handful of visits from social media sites and viral efforts.
@Chris, that’s a great point, that writing comments gets our writing gears going.
Some blogs have great comment communities, almost like mini forums. I’ve definitely created some great relationships with commenters in that context, and gone on to read their blogs, comment there, and send a little business back and forth as appropriate.
Right now when I’m writing this I see no other comments but I think, considering my speed, there will be some by the time I click the submit button
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I totally agree…many comments have spam written all over them even when they are being submitted manually, and even when they seem to be commenting on the current blog post. Personally, I don’t think there is anything wrong in leaving one or two liners as long as they push the ongoing conversation forward, but hurriedly-left comments just to attract a few clicks hardly works. Commenting should also be considered an important brand-building activity and hence, it is better to be a silent reader if you don’t have anything specific to say.
And again, I agree that the standard of commenting is really good here
haha.. That’s predictable Brian.
I’m not always trying to be a first commenter but that’s how I work.
Whenever I see there is a new post in my feed reader, I will always try to go and read that post first not to be the first commenter but merely to see if that post warrant a retweet.
If I think I should leave a comment than I will
Good post… this warrant an RT
the term ‘relationship’ is really2 useful. money doesn’t come at a split second, traffic won’t increase immediately but by making friends it leads us to the success
What Chris said is appropriate about writing a comment – “getting your wheels turning”. As a blogger, I’ll get good ideas for an article by writing comments on another blog.
While some people will write comments just to get clicks, I have the opposite problem. I have a hard time writing a comment unless I truly feel that it adds some value to the conversation… like now for instance.
But I’m reminded by the times I’ve written a “meaningless” comment (in my opinion) and learn later that what I said made a huge difference in someone’s life. You never know, I guess.
It really comes down to connecting and offering up whatever you’ve got available, however profound or not. To paraphrase Freud, “Sometimes a comment is just a comment.”
I think this relates to a lot of areas in social media in general:
Make posts, comments, tweets because you have something to say, and you are providing meaningful content of some sort. The desire for traffic should be a secondary motivation.
I try to look at my blog comments the same way I look at my blog content: strong content drives traffic to your blog and keeps it there, good comments will do likewise.
I usually ask myself “does the post I am writing or the comment I am leaving add value?”
If the answer is yes I click submit. If the answer is no I click cancel.
16th
Check out this hilarious video, appropriately titled – “First”
I comment frequently among a certain community of bloggers. It feels like an extension of conversations we are having in other places, too.
I also comment because, well, even crusty old bloggers need love, too :-*
Good short post. A good solid comment on a blog post can lead to traffic if it ADDS something to the content of the original blog post. It also helps if it is in your area of expertise (commenting on a well-know blog that has nothing to do with what YOU do – gets you a few ‘curiosity clicks,’ it does not build relationships).
One thing I suggest my clients do, but only on bog posts that fit the above criteria, is to comment on selected blog posts – in a way that adds value – THEN post it to their favorite social media platform.
I suggest using this sparingly, so it does not become SPAM, but an intelligent blog comment is another way to show your friends (on Facebook), followers (on Twitter) or connections (on LinkedIn), i.e. your potential customers, clients & peers that you know your stuff. Done too frequently, it reflects on you poorly, done frequently and without adding value equals SPAM.
I never considered my placement with comments as much as my content. Honestly, I would feel awkward leaving the standard “Great Article!” comment on millions of blogs every day. If I don’t have something constructive or useful to comment, best not comment at all.
Asking questions that invite further discussion of the post topic is a great way to comment.
With a blog like CopyBlogger, your comment will end up being one of hundreds very quickly. When I scroll through CB’s comments, I usually stop on the longest ones. This indicates to me the commenter took their time to write something potentially useful. Chris Garrett’s comment was the first one that caught my eye on this post today.
I have a rule of thumb that I like to follow: if I have something to say that will further the conversation, I say it. If I can’t come up with anything that will in some way continue the discussion (or, I suppose, start a relevant new one), then no one’s going to bother seeing what else I have to say on my blog.
19th! Sweet – totally not trying to get some traffic by leaving a lame comment.
In all seriousness, this was a helpful article because I’ve wondered about the effectiveness of commenting on other sites. Thanks for the write up.
Okay – so maybe I was 23rd – sorry about that
The shocking truth isn’t really that shocking. Your statement on relationships being the secret reminds me of the things that first got me interested in blogging and more specifically video blogging. I enjoyed “meeting” people and having genuine conversations with humans from all over the world.
It was great learning about them, their families and the things that they were interested in. It was even cool to see their interest in my day to day life. Success wasn’t measured in dollars as a personal blogger. And comments weren’t and still aren’t made just to improve my standings among search engines or fellow bloggers. Comments were relevant responses to content and genuine reactions to shared information. Comments show gratitude, encouragement, ask questions, seek clarification and more.
In some ways this remains truth for me as I look to grow my blog, website and social networks for my business. Success isn’t just about numbers or a very detailed measure of ROI. Success is still connecting with people, providing value, serving them in some way, producing something that others can be interested in and something I too am proud of.
On the other side, our business lives are important. numbers, SEO and ROI are important to us. I can understand how some might want to use methods like this to improve their standings, get some extra hits, and maybe generate some more income.
But I’m in agreement with you. Commenting first for the sake of commenting first and being noticed by others isn’t a recommended method. We need to be genuine. Real relationships and good, true, and genuine content are what social media is about and what make it successful.
(Seemingly) I’m one of the few that not only enjoys commenting on substantive content, but also commenting on substantive comments. I feel bloggers miss an opportunity to develop meaningful relationships when they just comment and run, never to be seen again.
I’d say typing one’s website name(if you have one) in the name field of blog comments is more important than placement, yet I notice repeatedly people failing to do so.
Leave a memorable comment, but also make sure to include your name AND website name. Study the comments to this post and you’ll see some taking advantage of this and some not.
@Shane – I am one of the people who gets irritated when people use “branding” rather than their names, or go over the top with adding “branding” into their names.
That is, I tend to dismiss what Billy “Portland SEO Truck Body Repair Bug Control” Smith has to say, over the exact same comment made by simply Billy Smith.
I have a comment policy over on my blog that clearly states those that abuse the name field get nuked.
@Brian, do you have a comments policy?
I loved those first couple of comments. They made me smile. Thanks for that.
I’d echo the content/relationships angle. Even more so than going for the social media traffic (which may or may not just be passing fad traffic), if you leave a quality comment, you’re creating quality content as well.
It’s the quality content seekers that you really want as visitors to your site. They’ll stick around and hopefully even buy. If they see the quality content, it won’t matter as much when they noticed the conversation.
@ Chris G, I just saw your comment regarding the name field. I totally agree. On my blog, I use KeywordLuv so people use their real name AND still get the quality of link they really wanted.
If they don’t even pay attention to that notice, that’s when I consider nuking them.
@Chris,
Never thought of it that way. I was concentrating on the “meaningful comment” aspect of this post and thought if you leave a meaningful comment, that wouldn’t matter. But, I see your point.
Focus on what you want to do, and what matters most to you.
Content matters because content informs, teaches, and communicates.
All I do is Tweet a blog entry and share with Facebook.
Could I do more? Sure! I just don’t have the time or incentive.
I agree with this conclusion, “I find that the higher level of singular focus I place on content development, the better the content turns out.”
I am never the first to comment, because I like to see what others have to say that I might agree or disagree with. Often other readers will have a different viewpoint on the topic and I can learn something new.
I have two blogs, the one for my press (Medusa’s Muse) and one about parenting. I find it interesting that the one for my press that relates to writing and book publishing gets far fewer comments and when people do comment, they are usually from people who want me to check out their own blogs. My parenting blog gets many comments and those comments are from people who obviously read the content and aren’t just looking for traffic. I find that mom bloggers are more into it for the relationship building and sharing of ideas, while writer bloggers are more interested in getting people to visit them.
I agree that it comes back to the quality of the content. Whether it is a comment or an actual blog post, the content that will help to build your blog is the content that you take the time and effort to create so that it is meaningful and valuable to your target audience.
As with most things, hard work pays off. If your goal is to build and sustain traffic overtime, there aren’t any “quick fixes” that will help you to achieve that.
I’ve been a reader of Copyblogger for several months, and have never commented because… to tell the truth I don’t know why. Today something about this post compelled me to participate in the discourse.
Relationships are everything in the online community. I like to comment on people’s blogs only when, like today, I get that feeling in my gut that says, “I want to talk to this person, respond, tell them what I thought about this post, thank them for inspiring me…” and so on. One of the reasons I have not felt the urgency to comment so far is that for the most part I agree just about 100% with everything that is said here, so commenting to say, “nice job, I couldn’t agree more, yet another great post by Cobyblogger,” and such just doesn’t feel like a great contribution.
I echo what others here have said, if you have something to say that will add to the conversation, great. If you disagree constructively, great. If not, less is definitely better than more.
Love the blog, btw, and now feel justified in saying it.
Shane, I hate it when people put keywords or the name of their company/blog in the name field. That is exactly the wrong way to build relationships with other human beings.
Chris G, my comment policy is “Don’t be an idiot.”
I’m sorry, I have to comment again, Brian, just to tell you that the first youtube video is really hysterically funny! I love that guy!
Brian,
Point taken, but I was coming at this discussion from an average Joe perspective, not some type of SEO-pimp-looking-for-cheap-mentions angle. Kind of like me meeting someone in person and saying, “Hi, I’m Shane. I’m from Maryland.” that type of mention. Just a little bit more detail that gives me a hint as to what this person is about.
ust a little bit more detail that gives me a hint as to what this person is about…without having to click and leave the site before I’ve read the rest of the comments, I mean.
Time zones have a role to play, too. Sometimes people arrive first in a comment box because of where they live and when the feed goes out. To be in the first 70 commenters at Zen Habits, for example, I’d have to stay up all night. (I’m in the UK.)
I comment for connection and a sense of community. If the blogger never interacts with the people who leave comments, I don’t comment there.
I also regularly build posts around comments as a way to thank my commenters or to send visitors to blogs I like.
It isn’t all that difficult to determine how effective your commenting strategy is. You can easily measure traffic as I did writing about commenting in Blog Traffic Up 54.87% in the Last 30 Days; Our Proven Traffic Improvement Strategy .
You can tell whether your visitors were really interested in what you write by looking at the bounce rate (how many only viewed that one page) and the average time on site.
I would like your opinion on names used in comments. You may have noticed that I have used Internet Strategist as my “name” wherever I write in connection with my blog. I know that annoys some people who expect a “regular” name.
I consider it unwise to use your real name or image for reasons I explain in the privacy posts in my blog that are too long to go into here. IYO should I provide you (and them) with a pen name that is more like a “regular” name to make others more comfortable?
In certain circles I am well established as Internet Strategist and/or GrowMap and most bloggers accept that. I make adjustments for the others.
Thanks for the great reminders! Have caught myself skimming an article just to leave a “poignant” comment… thinking to myself… Am I “really” understanding what the writer is trying to get across?
You reminded me to not miss the entire point of a post just to get a comment in I think will attract readers.
Solution for me, is to really decide on what blogs in my niche I think are really adding value to the topics I’m covering on my blog. And spend more time adding value to the community there.
I am in it for the long hall and really enjoy writing and helping others, I need to remind myself of that when I get in a hurry to just leave a comment… hmmm am I doing that now?
Hi Brian,
This is my first comment on your blog I’ve been reading for round about 3 months. This by the way
… Clicking through all the blogs I’ve ever read I’ve noticed the same phenomenon you’re describing. It’s really funny. – I am a blogger, too. My dealing with commenting other blog is that I don’t comment each post, because I all to often have nothing to say. But, when I have something to say I often comment a post later than the others, because I usually think about this interesting post for a longer time (sometimes several days). But, when I have the right words, I hope (I am from Germany and my english isn’t fast …), I go back and comment – anyway the post was published 5 or 14 days ago. So, if this post impressed me, first I think about – and then I comment it – maybe
… and like this post
Best wishes, you do a great job! Really!
Nadine
Hi Brian, great post. It reminds me of a family member that likes to post multiple videos and blog posts a day about anything from social media to how to make a soda and Mentos bottle rocket. He does this to gain popularity on the web, but personally I think it makes him look like a person with no credibility.
p.s. In my opinion, you’re right.
Nadine
Ha ha, I haven’t a hope of being first. I totally agree that I’m not going to be tempted to read someone’s blog if I’m not impressed with their comments. And I’ll also agree that I’m not going read every single comment on a blog if the list gets too big.
The solution, it seems to me, is always to post quality comments, that come from a place of wishing to share knowledge or expertise.
I believe that people read my blog because I’m real person who has struggled against some real issues to live her dream, and I share my journey openly.
Seems to me that if I comment on blogs to comment on blogs and get traffic, I would be doing something that feels uncomfortably false.
If I’m commenting on blogs that say something that matters to me, because it matters to me, I’m being real, honest and authentic.
All true for certain (SMART) tipe of visitors. But in your online sales more often than not your decision maker isa not going to grasp any of that. For him, you quite often need that first comment. Short, crisp, confirming, offering solution – like you Google AdWords ad. Or a Tweet. Just to grab him, capture, and convert on your page.
Than again, I would find it to distructive to work the feeds like tha tas well!
And here I am leaving the comment No 44 or something… So I practice what you preach!
PS – I think I’ll read the last comments on everyone’s blog from now on ;D
Actually I’ve found that I’ve gotten good traffic no matter where I am in the “comment queue”.
Before I started actively commenting on other blogs, I got literally NO traffic.
However, if I read a post that has no personal meaning for me I don’t write a comment because it would surely be a lame one!
Jared raised a great point about adding value. I think at the end of the day, it’s about adding value to the conversation.
My best traffic generating comment expanded on a highly technical post on a popular blog.
Many commenters were asking for the same modifications, so I wrote a detailed post explaining how to modify the original post to meet their needs.
It feels a little selfish to me, I’m not wholly comfortable with pushy self-promotion, but I commented a brief solution and linked to my more detailed solution.
Even though my comment was buried, like this one, I launched my blog (did I mention it was one of my first posts) with hundreds of daily visitors over the 1st week.
Commenting intelligently or, better still, regularly commenting intelligently generates more traffic than “great post” comments. But if you really want to generate traffic off comments, find your fellow commenters’ pain and provide a solution.
You are right on (and that’s not sucking up). Commenting on other people’s blogs can’t build traffic enough to make it worth it alone. The true value to commenting on another blog is to choose one in your niche and establish a relationship with other readers or the blog owner for added tweeting, linking, etc. If all I did was comment to get 3/30/300 clicks and hope some of them are targeted and will stay, I’d waste a lot of time. My business would be much better served writing quality articles for my readers, writing content for e-Books, writing guest posts, etc.
Ask yourself if hiring a V.A. would be worth adding a generic comment simply to be the first to comment and you probably would not think it’s worth your money. So, why is it worth your time? My time is precious.
These days you would hardly find comments that make sense. Most of the comments are of the “Nice post” types with the commentator expecting someone to click on his link and come to his post.
When it comes to commenting, I am a curious internet surfer. I click a few such links once in a while to see if the commentator has some quality posts on his blog or, not. And at times to my surprise I have found that there indeed were some quality posts.
From all this my inference is as follows:
Commenting can be a good traffic builder if you add value to the post. You can expect people to follow your comments and come to your website. Then it is solely upto the content on your website to keep these readers engrossed.
At the same time, when good posts like these see so many comments, what is the possibility that your comment will be read out of the so many comments that are there? Next to zilch.
A one line comment if catchy can also induce a reader to click on it and come to your blog. Then your posts should be able to keep them there.
All in all this means that commenting – good and valuable comments or, useless comments; inducing people to click on your link and come to your blog, all depends upon how lucky you are to be picked out of the numerous comments to a post.
Haha, after reading this post, it almost makes me hesitant to post a comment for fear that it isn’t a good one! However, I will still try
I agree with you that comments must be written and placed carefully. I’m actually in process of writing a case study on this very topic. It should be up within a day or two. Additionally though, people need to proof read their comments. Comments with typos or spelling errors reflect a rushed or careless attitude–so be careful!
This one really made me think. So, I looked back at the past few years to see what the dynamic has been for me.
1. Since I usually ask a probing question at the end, responses that address the question usually get more attention from me. That ultimately translates into link-sharing, subscribing to another blog, etc.
2. If someone comments for the first time and leaves a one-liner, I usually ignore it.
3. If the response is long…but somehow relates to the post if not the question, I definitely read it and respond. Anyone who is thoughtful enough to craft a profound response deserves some attention, a comment, and perhaps will be a new relationship.
4. If someone includes a link to their own post in every single comment, I start ignoring them. I don’t delete the comment, but I figure they aren’t there for the conversation but to be self-serving.
5. My own regret: as subscriptions grew and the related comments as well, I don’t have enough time to thoughtfully comment on the breadth of blogs that I used to. I still subscribe and read, but don’t comment as often. Am trying to come up with a way to rectify that.
I don’t hesitate to comment on blogs that somehow get me thinking. If it’s something I can help expand on, like Damon said, then that adds even more popularity to the original post while helping generate some interest in my blog as well — a win-win.
Of course, getting people to click your website link from your comment is only half the battle! Making sure your posts are as good as your comments is what keeps people coming back.
You should have closed comments for this post — just kidding.
Thanks for the compliment Brian. I like to consider us Copyblogger readers more informed, engaging and cutting edge than the majority.
The unofficial commenting policy is to add an original thought or idea to the conversation. I’d say about 1/2 of commenters do this. The other half are seeking cheap click-thrus.
Nice post, now visit my blog and subscribe.
Ok, I admit that was not funny. You didn’t mention it but a lot of people leave comments on blogs for links as well.
Blogs that are do follow or have top commentator or comment luv plug-ins are all targets of these types of comments.
I know this because I have used this strategy myself for certain reasons. I do try to leave meaningful comments though.
I made my personal blog do-follow in hope that it would attract more conversation but so far it has only attracted link seekers.
Building relationships is key. I have regular commenters who leave thoughtful (or funny) comments on most articles I post. I in turn do the same but only because we are from the same sort of niche, find value in each other’s content and have built a relationship.
It’s now at the stage where we’re interviewing each other and guest posting. The pay off is that we’re helping each other get our content out there and also build traffic.
Sometimes you feel like you have something to say, sometimes you feel like just saying “nice post” (and really meaning you just wanted to say “I liked this article”), but then you second guess yourself thinking that if you just comment that, someone might think you’re trying to suck comment traffic with your comment. Then your “nice post” -comment is suddenly this long and in the end you did have something to say, even that is was more and less meaningless. p.s. “I liked this post”
jaja!
my laugh is because the two “first” that dissapear!
I read the article, as always, excellent advices for copywriters!
Great post. Is there also a SEO factor in commenting relevant content?
On my blog I sometimes feel like the only people that are commenting are other bloggers in order to build backlinks. It’s fairly obvious when this is the case. The comments they make are thinly veiled backlink builders and, in my mind, only tend to discourage other real subscribers who would make meaningful comments if there wasn’t so much comment clutter that borders on spam.
The question is: is it sustainable? Sure, your initial comment SPAM strategy might yield high short-term results, but in the end people catch on and leave the relationship. If you can consistently add value to comments, and engaging in conversation is the primary motive, then all else will follow. It may take longer, but your brand will last longer as well.
Some time ago I realized that I could draw a clear line between the two camps my own comments fell into. It was not about the *con*tent, but the *in*tent.
If it’s about them, I comment. If I’m commenting because, deep inside, I know it’s really about me and I’m just yelling “look at me look at me” then I don’t.
This means that sometimes, I leave the comment “dead bang on target!” because I feel it’s about you. And sometimes, I write a lengthy tome, realize it’s just me talking about my favorite subject again (me) and trash it.
(Side note: if you don’t like comments someone has left on your blog, delete them. Cut them out with scissors, shred them, burn the shreddings and then bury the ashes in the yard. They don’t own your blog, you do. If *you* say it’s spam, it’s spam. Kill it. An owner who keeps his property clean will gain respect from those who’ve evicted bums.)
There are so many spammers and bloggers out there just trying to generate traffic to their blog with no genuine interest in community and relationships. On my own blog, I tend to get comments from some regulars that I know only online and I really enjoy the ongoing dialogues around common topics at my blog, their blog and twitter. It’s meaningful to me and readers.
As always, your finger is on the pulse.
Sadly, it is has often been glaringly obvious that “readers” have left commentary in a race to service their own agendas and it is hard not to feel a little violated by this.
Obviously, being this far down the list of pertinent comments will leave me well off that list of offenders for today!
Dare I say “great post!”
I don’t think enough people click thru on commenter’s links to actually call it a strategy or make it worth anything except the relationship it furthers.
For that matter, I don’t actually think enough people click thru on links in the post to matter.
I’ve been linked to, as a featured link in a post, by people with over 50K RSS subscribers and only found 35 visits in my server logs.
I’ve also had posts retweeted by people with over 50K Followers and saw no appreciable gain in page views.
So, for my limited amount of time, neither seems to be worth the effort.
Creating content in some form, that can be used strategically, in 2-3 different modalities, is a far better use of anyone’s time.
@Ari — good point. A sound comment policy enables fair editorial moderation. I see no problem with not publishing comments that don’t meet the blog’s standards.
Cutting down on the classic/crappy “Great post!” and linkbait comments is a grass-roots way to start cleaning up the crap on web.
@Brian — another glitch in your comment script: when you go to “previous comments” there’s no link to get to “next comments.” All you see is the 1st page of 50 comments, but no way to continue reading the rest of them.
No comment.
One way that’s worked for me is to become regular commenters on blogs in my niches, horror writing and politics.
They often reciprocate and it’s a way of building a genuine relationship.
Benjamin –
Horror writing and politics? Sounds like a match made in heaven!
Chris
Here’s my assessment of the subject:
Commenting is wise. Indeed, it can drive traffic to your site. But… the time used to comment should be kept to a minimum as you’re not going to get all that bang for the buck, though the traffic you do get is very high quality.
So what do I do?
Actually, for the sake of traffic, there is only one blog I strive to comment on every post. Because you get significant amounts of traffic and I believe a few invaluable conversions too.
But beyond that one blog (trade secret
, I really only regularly comment on a few I’m in good relationships with who comment on mine. I also enjoy their blogs by the way.
So yeah… Commenting is a really bad strategy. Hey I got an idea: Instead of spending hours commenting, why not invest those same hours into a killer guest post to be published on a major blog?
The above would be time well spent. And the returns far greater.
By the way… Congratulations on hitting the 60,000 mark.
I’m not far behind…
With the volume of columns/blogs that come across my computer each day, the ones that resonate with a ‘tuning-fork truth’ are the ones I am most apt to comment on … such as yours, this being the first since I recently discovered CopyBlogger.
98% of the time it is to thank the writer for their insights or POVs on a topic of interest, since they are willing to share their knowledge and sources to educate me and the rest of their readers. The other 2% is my two cents worth
So, Brian, please accept this humble note of appreciation. As a writer, I look forward to learning more each day, and you are one of a select few that I now read on a regular basis.
Thank you Cat, that was much appreciated.
I’ve never had performance anxiety before commenting a blog post before. Thanks for that.
Definitely agree. I’d rather get a hit from one person who thinks that I have something intelligent to say and wants to hear more than 100 people who just click the first link in front of their face.
The second comment achieve its purpose – I think I become a long term reader to its content.
The person behind can use the strategy of being the first to comment since the topic of its blog is what every human likes to read about regardless of what they are interested at the moment.
Just read some SEO article about leaving large amount of comments each day (seems exhausted) and now read yours about leaving few but meaningful comments. Totally opposite idea and strategies but yours is less time-consuming and depressed. How can one humanly leave hundreds of comments per day unless comments are automated. Too much junk out there. Need a better knowledge filter before become overloaded. By the way, I like your theme so I use it for my blog. I have been trying to find simple theme but with no success. Yours is simple and clear. Thanks.
I actually only read six blogs and the comments to the posts. I feel it is very beneficial to comment on blogs. It really helps get a new blog started.
I guess it would depend Brian,
If we focus on how early or late we comment, well, I’m your 83rd comment and I know you are a pretty busy guy, my chances aren’t good regardless of how witty my response is.
But I also noticed your last response to a comment was #78 and it was to thank someone. Shows dedication to your readers and that you are reachable. So in this particular instance it would be sensible and smart for me to comment for two reasons:
First because it was an excellent topic worth commenting on and second because as you mentioned, I hope to attract attention from you and other commenters to further invest more of their already limited time in taking a peak at my blog.
So I guess I too would try to manage my time as best I could when commenting on my fave blogs
Good piece!
Exchanging blog comments is how I met the wacky and fabulous Naomi Dunford, with whom I’ve gone on to do business and have near-illegal amounts of fun. I 100% agree that the most important thing comments do for you is to open the potential of a relationship with the blogger.
84th!! Seriously, you make some good points. A token comment is very transparent indeed. Anything that smacks of ego stroking is also transparent. My mother often said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
I would add: if you have nothing “real” to say, then say nothing at all.
did I expect something like this, when I saw the video on youtube (via ur tweet ) ? not really
I had tried this method, but I stopped it very soon after that. It won’t work, I mean, it gives you clicks, but no quality traffic
Indeed, alot of people who comment (and now re-tweet) are bloggers …. and I would be lying if I wasn’t doing it to leech off some of that amazing traffic big blogs tend to get. Like Chris G said, a couple of hundreds of visits a day is probably all we bottomfeeder blogs get. Besides, we’re only taking the advice of fellow bloggers, especially the huge blogs who blog about blogging, and commenting is a good way of increasing online presence, and indeed to build a kind of communication with the author.
As a blogger of a very, very niche area (hence smaller following), I am alot closer to the readers (since I have so few of them, compared to you) and I still view comments as interaction between me and the readership (ie, I am still able to reply to every single comment)
Would I like to see 100 comments for every post? Who wouldn’tr ight? If they were 100 comments which are critical, thought provoking and ones which challenge my writing, that would be more than grand, but even if they were the self-promoting (hey, great post, now visit me) sort of comment, I’d still take it. At the end, deep down inside, everybody is self-serving to a certain extent and we are all attention seeking bloggers who want people to just pay attention.
There are some blogs that I read and comment on regularly. Sometimes I will land there and see there are no comments. I will come back later to leave mine just so that I am not first all the time. I don’t use the strategy of “trying” to be first, but I also don’t want it to look like I AM trying to be first. Ah, the numbers game. I have to say that I prefer commenting after there have been a few comments. There’s more life to absorb.
I’d like to pick up on a comment from Chris (#5) about turning a comment into a post…
I’m not a major commenter on blogs – I know I should do more – but I do keep a close eye on 2 or 3 forums, and I often get my butt kicked into writing a detailed reply to something someone’s written on one of them.
I regularly turn those detailed replies into posts on my own blog, and those are often more popular, more quickly than posts over which I’ve laboured for hours.
For bloggers who struggle to find things to write about, participating in a community, whether it’s a blog or a forum, can be a great inspiration for posts of your own.
Cheers,
Martin.
It’s a bit funny that you write this. I took upon myself the pleasant wrath of following the comments of your post about The Golden Rule of Online Marketing. I was surprised how many comments still appear after a few days the post was written, and how many do not have that much to do with the post.
I am not sure that commenting is a good strategy for traffic boosting, but accidents may happen.
I think it’s more fun to engage with the other commenters down there, though. Like I totally dig Michelle’s idea of the word ninja:) And I salute Daniel the First.
And it gets back to what Nelia is saying, that bloggers “hit and run, never to be seen again”. And it is not very efficient following up comments and waiting to see if other people will say something to you.
And after three days, even if you do have something to say to someone “down there”, the time is due.
I just had to say Wow! Oh, and this comment is not really about the post I just read regarding being the first, its about how much I’ve enjoyed reading your posts. I enjoy your humor and the enlightening point of views. In fact your blog is probably the first I’ve spend any time really reading! Thanks!!
NOT FIRST!!
Ha!
Im a loser, but seriously, I think the comment traffic is great. Just my opinion, but I do have a really cool blog!!
I was just perusing my feeds looking for appropriate blogs to comment on.
How appropriate that I came across this post that spelled things out for me.
As a relatively new blogger, its great to be told in black and white what does and doesn’t work and how to use a tool like commenting appropriately.
John
*Where’d My Time Go Copyblogger ?*
As bloggers we spend our time creating content about something that is meaningful to us and hopefully others. It’s a great feeling when other people appreciate your hard work and knowing that makes it doubling satisfying acknowledging other peoples work.
I used to read copyblogger often and then for some reason I stopped using my Google reader and so it’s been ages since I’ve been here. So today I started looking through it and this post caught my eye. Before I read this post I downloaded the ‘Outsourcing Conspiracy’…
…outstanding and then I circled back to read this post, a cracker (not to mention the great comments).
Well there goes an hour up in smoke thanks very much Mr. Clark! Well spent though. I’ll be back more often, almost forgot how good it is over here.
Cheers,
Steve Anderson
P.S. That first video was a crack up
First!!!
Oh no if I scroll up the page, I can now see people b4 me, dohh.
This is a very useful article though, I comment occasionally but don’t believe that it has ever resulted in more traffic to my site. Perhaps I am not doing enough or not doing it right. Could it also be that I have a service offering outside of the blogging / social media industry itself – in which case that could mean that only social media relates to social media, introspection with no added value?
Most curious.
But still, a very readable article, thanks for letting me in
I don’t often comment on your blog because when you are through, there is nothing much to add. You have covered it.
One of the most important things I have learned from you is to write Cosmo – type titles. But there is always something new from you.
But I never miss an article and often stumble it instead.
Well, guess I have no chance of being first! Not that that was my intention, LOL.
Excellent post today, and very true. You want thoughtful comments, you have to leave thoughtful comments; it’s just that simple. Not quick and not always easy, but simple.
It is fascinating how these relationships build through commenting. Someone faithfully comments you and then all of a sudden they disappear for a few posts, and it’s kind of unsettling. Then they come back and apologize for being gone, sometimes even explain where they’ve been, and start commenting again. That always confirms to me that I’ve built a successful “relationship” — they know that I know they usually comment, they know that I’ll notice if they’re not there. (Especially if they’re always “first”!)
Thanks for a great post!
I believe in karma. If you comment on a blog purely from the perspective of hoping to extract something of value that is very transactional and self-focused. If on the other hand you post a comment that adds to the discussion, provides some additional insight or just makes someone smile with no direct plan for any material gain, then I think you rack up a few karma points that will get redeemed somewhere along the line.
This question goes to the heart of why many people struggle with social media. The question is me-centric. Is commenting a good way for ME to grow MY traffic?
When you phrase/ask the question in that way, you focus your efforts on how YOU benefit. Social media works best when you see it as a way to CREATE value, not to EXTRACT it. Using comments as a way to drive traffic back to your blog is value EXTRACTION.
The best way to drive traffic back to your blog? Write a damned interesting comment that makes me think ‘who in the hell is this smartie pants? I better check out her blog right now!’
Social media makes things happen INdirectly. Want more traffic back to your blog? Then write comments that other people will find VALUE in, and that will result in traffic back to your blog.
Create the value FIRST, then you can see the results.
This is funny…really, relationships that last are the best thing-who wants tons of traffic if no one engages, if no one gives back, if no one stops to consider that they are losing the community?
Good stuff!
Well said by Mack Collier.
It’s a bit hard to comment and keep a straight face
Why do we blog? I think a lot of it has to do with wanting to talk and share with others. That’s what building a community and building relationships is all about. That’s what makes it fun. When I comment on other peoples blogs, it’s because I feel that I have something to share. Traffic is nice, but it’s not the main reason.
This is the first time I’ve read SO MANY comments on a blog, and I’ve actually clicked on some of the names to learn more. I didn’t THIS time, but often, I do leave an identifier with my name. I realize many consider this too over-the-top, but I find it really helpful when others identify themselves before I even click.
And thanks to whoever (I forget now) wrote “My business would be much better served writing quality articles for my readers, writing content for e-Books, writing guest posts..” – a good reminder. There are so many ways to share.
Do comments on someone else’s blog lead to traffic on your blog or website? Sure a comment will get you traffic. Whether it’s the best way to get traffic is highly debatable. Ok, let’s just call it crap. I’ve never ever seen more than a handful of people come from any post I’ve made on a blog.
The best reaction to a blog is the ongoing relationship for sure. Bloggers will notice who’s posting. They will notice who’s making sense. And bloggers will get busy. And that’s the point they’ll do the following:
1) They’ll turn to you to either work on a joint venture project with them
2) Or they’ll ask you for a guest post on their blog
Or 3) You in turn, will earn the right to do both of the above.
Without comments the blog is a dead place. The blogging media itself demands that there be a comment to the post. A blog post without a comment (or several comments) is like a restaurant with no people. The food may be great, buy you don’t feel like going inside.
Smart bloggers know that intelligent comments not only add to the conversation, but prevent the embarrassment of a blog with no action. And so they pay notice.
You don’t have to be the first.
You just have to be relevant.
Witty and intelligence helps.
-s
P.S. I use blogs as a great way to clear my mind, and get me all charged up to write an article. In fact, I wrote an article on Copyblogger about this very phenomenon.
I think the majority of people who comment on blogs are genuinely interested in the article and contribute to the debate.
Spammers must have a pretty boring life…….
Content has always been the King but it is the marketing aspect that is drowning the quality out of things. Ironically, for bloggers, it is a one man show and they have to look up to everything from writing good stuff and then spreading it out there. Since the later requires more time and energies hence comes a slap down on quality.
Same goes for the commenting fad, I believe! Readers are more on the look out for trafficked blogs with just content rather than inspirational stuff that would really drive out comments.
Amy Dyslex
Ok, call me crazy, but I tend to comment on blogs because I’m compelled to respond to something I read, rather than the notion that it’s going to drive heavy traffic to my site. I’m fairly new to all of this activity, but can someone tell me how driving meaningless traffic to your site or blog is beneficial? Might make your charts look impressive (at first glance), but if no one ever comes back, or cares what you have to say or sell, what’s the point? Kind of like those people who like to brag about the thousands and thousands of twitter followers they have, but if you take a look at who their followers are, most are completely irrelevant. Empty comments, empty traffic, empty followers will get you nowhere…
Accepting that a commenter needs to read all the post before leaving a comment when they have something meaningful to say or ask, should we/they also read all the previous comments before commenting? (I made it maybe half way.)
Also, are screen names always a bad thing? I blog and tweet and do many things online as Sophmom. I’ve come to know many folks in “real life” that first knew me as Sophmom. I’m fond of it.
Finally, isn’t it much like all of life? If it’s genuine and sincere and real, it works. If it’s contrived or forced or fake, it doesn’t. I’ve been blogging since 2004. Without question, the best thing that’s come from that has been the community, the relationships that have developed, and that happens in comments. Interactivity is creative.
Another interesting post. Thanks.
@ Momblebee ..exactly my feelings… i have alwasy appreciated people with a relatively low no. of followers but sound updates that are “from the heart”
…yet marketing is marketing
Regards,
Amy Dyslex
Thank you for your excellent insights. As with most of the commenters, I am seeking to build my blogging skills and community.
I will continue to focus on quality over quantity. You ultimately end up with authenticity, which is always a goal in successful professional services.
I think i’m #107 … nothing to write home about.
I guess i’d love to be 1st on some of the big blogs, but as you point out that takes work and it’s not the type of work that I want to do daily. Payoff is crappy and i think it would mess with your head after doing it for a while.
http://twitter.com/franswaa
Hello Brian. Thanks for not using my blog as an example of one of the bad ones. But all seriousness aside, I’m thinking “hey, he could be right – a great first post would work” so now I’m thinking I can write a sucky post, then be the first one to make a comment (well thought out and very insightful) linking back to the blog so that when people click on my name they return to the same page??? That could work. Ok, maybe not.
Truthfully though, getting “clicks” to my site and blog is total and absolute bullshit unless what I have to say on my site and blog is informative, entertaining or has some way of satisfying people’s needs. To do that I need to know who I’m talking to – and define my audience. When I reply to posts on SEO blogs my audience is my peers (for lack of a better word – because some of the blog posts I’m commenting on belong to SEO industry giants). I’m writing to those having written the posts and those like myself who are also replying.
My own blog is supposed to be winning over potential clients, so I’m writing there to persuade them in simpler terms – to convince them for their own good that I can do a better job than the guy who finally winds up getting the job of building them a web site so that it ranks a 4 on something like Guy Kawasaki’s Website Grader. Meanwhile, the reality is that I’ve been trying to write for both audiences on the same blog – and doing a miserable job of it. Maybe the answer is to have two blogs – a “professional to professional” blog and a “client / professional” blog. More work, but less confusing because it will help me to clearly divide and clarify each.
Your post may have hit the nail right on the head. That may be the only way I can truly hope develop more satisfying and meaningful relationships with people belonging to each group.
Is this article most-commented or what? I had a hard time scrolling here to the bottom…
I have read different articles about “comments on blogs”, but these are the few that really made an impression to me. Nicely-put, I might add.
Oh, and by the way, I just found out that Brian Clark was co-founder of DIY Themes… how ignorant of me.
More power to copyblogger!
I don’t spend much time commenting on other blogs, but maybe I should. Thanks for the tips!
Wanted to read all the comments but seriously way to many of them(yes you are popular:). Great article though.
The thing that’s of more interest to me is how to go about promoting your product on blogs with use of comments.
If they write about our competitor would you encourage people to try your product as well or is it more of a spam or bagging for attention? I mean it’s relevant but it’s still kind of comments people might disregard??
Okay, so I’m not first.
Early on I was tempted to hire someone in a forum to post blatant comments about my site in the hopes that it would drive traffic to my blog. Luckily for me, this is one of the “internet marketing tactics” I didn’t fall for.
I’ve setup Google alerts for various keywords and phrases specific to my market. Whenever I see one of them in my email I follow the link and see if there’s something worthwhile for me to post on. If so, I do. Then I’ll watch for the Google alert again to see how quickly Google indexed that.
On some blogs and forums, I’ve seen it picked up by Google in a matter of a few minutes. Then I watch the traffic logs. My traffic goes up as well shortly after it’s picked up by Google.
Right now I’ve got about 40 Google alerts and this gives me enough “reputation” in the website security niche – for now.
Thank you for sharing this and reconfirming my thoughts.
“If one of your primary traffic strategies is to leave fast comments on the posts of larger blogs in your niche just to get a few clicks from the passing traffic, stop. You could get more traffic from one piece of stellar content than months of that type of comment strategy.
And without good content, there’s no reason to attract a few “curiosity clicks” anyway. What’s going to make them stick around after the click if your content sucks?”
Although, I can say that it is quite effective to comment in ‘big’ websites, you should make sure that you put in sensible, and helpful comments since you can put in a sense of mutualism between you and the author. And of course, maybe catch the interest of other readers.
Brian, I remember reading your comments at Prince’s blog, so fucking hilarious. Showed you, really you. That’s how I reintroduced myself to you on Twitter, “hey I remember your comments @chartreuseb” or something like that.
Too often I see comments on blogs like this that are just about getting attention, calculated. It’s like people following others on Twitter because they’re interested in… themselves.
For some reason, while in person I’m a clam, online I spew out the contents of my brain without hesitation. Pukes out all over, from major newspapers to new blogs’ first posts. I love commenting. Some comments have brought me more traffic than others’ posts about me ( not yours
) and my own posts.
But only when they’re genuine. And have a good link.
Peace.
@vinylart
I agree with Sid. Unless the comment is relevant and adds value, then what’s the point? Length is less important as long as it meets the relevant and value-adding criteria.
Has anyone just said “Yes”?
@Sophmom — you almost did!
Truly though, meaning comments that build relationships is the way to go. That is what communications/promotion (and marketing) is really all about… not just casting a net and sell, sell, selling but actually establishing a relationship (and trust) that results in a qualified customer.
The continuation of that relationship? Long-term and repeat customer that can become Lead generators through referrals.
Thanks for the article Brian, as always informative and entertaining. “A cut above the rest” as you baited us loyal readers with…
As a new blogger, and as someone who doesn’t speak the lingo like the rest of you, just want to say that this resource will be very valuable, and appreciated. Keep up the good work.
Larry (the storyfixer)
Hey Brian…you’ve hit a pet peeve of mine on this one. I may not be a long time blogger, but just from common sense and courtesy I know that any comments left on a blog should show the author that you took the time to read what they put their heart into. I can remember getting my FIRST comment on my blog, being so stoked about it, then realizing the commenter never read a thing and was just using my blog for shameless self promotion.
Some new bloggers I’ve talked to say they appreciate all comments because it’s still traffic…even the ones that are one liners spammed all over the place. But, is that the traffic you want to attract? Seriously, if your content doesn’t offer any value then that person will never be back. Any business owner will tell you that repeat business and referrals are the heart of their company. Your blog should be the same.
I look at comments I leave behind as content. They say something about me and are an extension of my own blog and my writing style (although I promise not to say anything too smart a** on someone else’s blog). If the comment looks lame, chances are the blog will too.
Haha, loved the first comments. I’ve seen it happen time and again on many popular blogs – the first few comments are definitely people who are rushing to leave the first comment to generate traffic. Typically I don’t click on comment links, unless I’m that intrigued by the type of comment left…not the order it was given. Although, for me to read all the comments, the post/article itself must be quite interesting – who doesn’t like a good debate?
This series of comments has pointed out the problem with commenting on Blogs.
1. Lots of me-two me-three comments.
2. Lots of “great post Brian” comments.
3. Lots of WIIFM content rather than WIIFY. (see my blog for a def. –grin– )
4. What commenter with a clue still has generic icons? If you don’t understand how to get your avatar going, then work on that first.
5. Commenters with dumb or scamy names.
6. Commenters who are commenting repeatedly to hear themselves comment.
7. So many dang comments it’s hard to keep a thread alive and read through the bulk of 1 – 6 type comments.
Mack C does a good job of defining Value creation rather than Value extraction.
And you yourself, say “I find that the higher level of singular focus I place on content development, the better the content turns out.”
One thing that was missed was the use of “trackbacks.” And how funny that there are 125 comments (at this moment) and 4 trackbacks. And guess what? The track backs are showing up at the top of the list, ABOVE the comments. And there’s even a duplicate trackback in Italian. Sweet!
A.) Write to create value. B.) If you comment on a blog do it with the same attention to detail you write with. (Heck maybe the nOObs are doing that.) C.) If a post really triggers your creative juices, write a post and use a trackback to get the link love from the post.
I’d say, “well done,” but I’m not gonna.
@jmacofearth
Ryland, I tried. “Yes” just seemed so naked sitting there by itself. I guess Brian said it first with “No. And yes.”
Coree, you’re right to suggest that “common sense and courtesy” should govern interactivity. I’d rather have no comments than spam comments, and comments really are “content”. In my legal line I note that “comments and quoted content are the property of the authors.” I can’t count how many blog posts I’ve had spring from interesting discussion that happened in comments on other peoples’ blogs.
People’s.
I made a beginners mistake recently by making a good comment to a blog with a very different audience and purpose than the blog I write. Some folks clicked through hoping I had more to say to them about prayer and found a blog dedicated to promoting the small town where I live.
129th!!!
I do it all the time. I like contributing to other’s blogs and getting a few visitors at the same time.
Commenting is a good strategy for traffic. It is all about building relationships. You have do your best to respect everyone’s time on putting together a blog and keeping up with the various posts. People are such a hurry and leave comments that make no sense. You made an interesting point about being the first few to make a comments. I will keep an eye on placement in the future when I make a comment back.
Would it be stupid to leave a thoughtful comment on a blog post simply because you’re passionate about the subject, and like to be a part of the conversation? I guess I’ll have to work harder on my ulterior motive strategy.
…or sometimes when you’re in a hurry, and you liked a post and want to remember to come back to the discussion? I’ve left comments just to make sure I got the follow up email notifications because I was interested in the interaction.
Bryan, Its a great piece of advice really! Commenting without reading the whole post is really non-sense!
The wise ones have always said, “Save the best for last.”
I hope nobody posts after me. ;]
Great initial post, with several good comments arguing both sides of the debate. As a general proponent of “less is more,” I net out on Brian’s side, particularly because less comment clutter will make it easier for the truly interesting ones to get noticed.
Ha! Maybe less is more for Brian Clark, but wouldn’t most blogers kill to get 140 comments on their posts?
Comments are just one way of attracting traffic, yes if you do it right. I made comments in blogs I find useful and interesting. It’s easy to spot spammers if the comments are out of topic and with promotional links. @Jon on getting more comments on blog. Google is giving more weigh on blogs with more useful comments, not spam comments. It’s what I learned.
I think the only thing more over done these days than the “Breaking News” is the RT. I hardly even notice them anymore, so I’m beginning to think a lot of other people skip over them as well.
As mentioned if you can be first and fabulous that’s great but if you are watching your feed all day to do that that would be a terrible waste of time. When your commenting your mostly trying to build a relationship with the blogger , readers are an added benefit
At 141, You can tell I’m not rushing to be #1. I’m not sure when this article was first published, could you indicate at the top the date of the blog? Hopefully I’m not totally out of date. This was a great article, some gurus encourage fast responses, calling it blog love. But they’re of little value if all they say are “Wow Great article”. Sometimes, long responses can be almost as helpful as the blogs, because useful, thoughtful comments are made. Even disagreements can be useful, because they too give pause for reflection. But comments can be very useful in building meaningful relationships, especially with helping newbies get the ball a-rolling. Copyblogger never fail to provide stimulating articles. Especially those on the left column. I have a full evening of reading these blogs ahead of me.
I’ve obviously been doing this all wrong! I have been posting on blogs in my niche, but I thought the only real reason for doing that was to get the backlink ( you don’t even mention that, so I guess that’s useless?). I never really thought that other visitors would click on my link and check out my site.
I always try to leave a meaningful comment, if only because most blogs seem to have comments moderated, and I want my comment to get through moderation.
I think there is some kind of software out there that can watch RSS feeds and notify you the instant it is published…
It’s unfortunate that there are people “educating” other who likely are looking for a way to build their business and they haven’t quite gotten that social networking…is connecting.
But…we’ve got super cool peeps like you that keep kickin’ down the goods about on the best way to comment.
Tim
I certainly comment on blogs in part to get traffic, in part to build links, in part to build relationships, and in part to get some visibility for my own work. Sometimes I post just because I plain like something and I know how nice it feels to get positive feedback. And occasionally, I have an opinion that I think others might find interesting and that I’d like to share.
I’m rarely first (and even less often fantastic!) but I do admit it’s discouraging to spend time crafting a thoughtful comment when you’re number… hmm, lets see… 140++
the idea being that no one is expected to read that far – are they??
What I wouldn’t do is post for the sake of it – along the lines of ‘loved your turkey recipe’. That’s thoughtless and wastes everyone’s time. So – I do think it’s a smart strategy to comment on blogs, but I would not waste my time glued to my screen hoping to be first… although in the top 20 once in a while might be nice!
The funny thing about this is…a buddy of mine sent me an article that splogging was black hat SEO techniques. In which I agree, but there is always a fine line between white hat and black hat SEO.
Commenting is a great way to increase your traffic and boost your traffic. But this will be achieve by following the two rules: 1.) Comment relevantly, 2.) comment on relevant blogs.
If I had the time I don’t know that I would bother commenting on anyone’s blog – just for traffic. I’m not made that way. I comment on blogs because I have something to say to the blogger. Being new to the blogging community, I hope to one day have commenting happening on my own blog – though I certainly don’t expect it anytime soon. I’m still developing the posts and gist of the blog so others might gain value from it.
148th!
So does that mean there is no point in me now commenting? maybe not. BUt there is something about commenting for your own sake, to express yourself with the belief that the article writer will probably read your comment (to check for any gratuitous advertising) which I thought was the original reason in the first place. Perhaps we have all forgotten that now we are all cynical and focused on links and traffic.
Having said all this, I agree with your thoughts Brian, and what a better world we would live in if all comments were engaging and full of opinion as opposed to links to date Romanian or Malaysian women.
ALl the best,
Bit of a newbie here, which means I’ve been at the tail of pretty much every thread I’ve commented upon. But they almost always get some responses. I actually read the posts just prior to where mine will appear more closely than the early ones.
My question here is — and excuse me if the newbie isn’t playing by the rules — but if everyone here is trying to drive traffic to their own sites, what’s the point? Is anyone concerned with delivering value here and now, and thus contributing to the community? If that’s true, and I hope it is, then this is a pretty special place — the agenda isn’t hidden, and yet it runs on value and goodwill. Pretty cool.
I totally agree with Larry. Its like being at a party where everyone is talking but no one is listening. Everyone shouting to get heard whilst everyone else is just trying to be the loudest. You are right Larry, there is no point. Perhaps the best approach is to offer comments with no ability to link. Therefore you are guaranteed that every contributor really wants to contribute.
However I don’t see any problem myself in contributing whilst representing your brand. So, a link from your name is un-intrusive and is available if readers want to find out more about what you are about, and if the blog is set up to ‘no follow’ so that search engines don’t see the link as a credit towards page rank, then the commenters will all be a bit more genuine, and we would all have to focus on more authentic ways of building our online businesses up. I wonder whether the top search engines already think this way and dont give much credit for stuffing links into sites in this way.
Building communities and content that people genuinely want to link to shows far more value than the website owner running around the web all day stuffing their URL into any site that will take it .
Most experienced bloggers and webmasters know crap comments when they see them.
If you want to leave a comment on my blog it’s fine. If you’re doing it to drive traffic to your blog or website, that’s fine.
Just leave a good comment.
Your post enlightens me about the effectiveness of posting comments on other websites. Thanks for those advice.
Commenting on blogs is a great way to keep up on fresh and new ideas. It also serves as a great tool for linking to others in social media.
Thank you very much for the information! I will use and apply it now.
Interesting. I’ve been running a series on my blog called 10 Commandments for aspiring writers, and number 9 was “Networking is about what you can do FOR someone, not what you can get FROM them.”
I’d have to apply that here. I agree 100% with your use of the word relationship. As an indie author and writers collective member (Year Zero Writers), to me the relationships you can build through commenting on each others’ blogs are THE thing that matter. Not because you can get something from someone, but in themselves. It’s like people on twitter who offer you hundreds of followers. I don’t want hundreds of followers. I want people to follow me if they find what I say intersting, funny, helpful.
It’s the same in the blogosphere. I’ve met some wonderful people. I don’t care what I do or don’t “get” from them, because I’ve already “got” their friendship and respect. And in the world of culture, that’s what matters.
What Don said. This continues to be a wonderful discussion.
You know, someone ought to come up with a blog plug-in where the best comments rise to the top of the viewing tree.
How that would work is anyone’s guess – maybe a Digg popularity system? (Except that would probably attract different kinds of comment “spammers”).
Maybe it would be completely in the hands of the blog owner, i.e. he or she can make the cream of the comments rise to the top, like a “sticky”.
That would encourage *quality* comments first, rather than “First!” comments
Just remember, folks – when every popular blog is using some kind of system like this in a year’s time – you heard it here first!
Absolutely agree with what you said in this post. I think the concept of “quality” applies to many other facets of traffic generation as well — articles, videos, social media links, etc.
Paul’s idea sounded illogical to me initially but maybe there is a way to ‘vote’ on people’s comments. I can imagine that if we were all in a room together giving each other space to say something, the person who said something meaningful on the subject would get a lot of ‘nods’ (better trademark that now!). Interesting……
So, personally I dont think its a case of raising the ‘best’ but more highlighting the comments that either the blog owner, or the community the blog owner has created that are the most influential in the discussion.
And on it goes… So what are peoples experience who have commented on this blog? Do you have analytics configured so you can see if your post here has generated ANY links?
And again, it’s not the “Great post” comments that are going to get any link love from visiting readers. I think that’s the point. A thoughtful post on the other hand, MIGHT get a looksee from the huge volume of passing users on copyblogger. And might not.
@jmacofearth
Nope, no analysis, too busy with crunching a new product collection and talking to suppliers and customers (its nearly 1am here). My site has no link value with the context of this blog anyway. Im here for the debate.
Personally, I think I would only be interested in checking out someone if I felt they had written something that connected with me in some way… but I guess that then draws us back into the cynical mode of what a commenter’s motivations are in the first place.
I keep on going back to the parallels within a natural environment, how would these different issues relate to a group of passionate people gathered together to talk about an interesting point.
My vote is with the bloke at the top of the page for this discussion in the first place, Brian.
Now no one is stupid and they can understand if someone put stupid and short comments to get the first position of comments on every new post.
This is something like kid stuff. I always did this kind of stuff when I was kid … but now I am mature and I think I should spread my image as mature person so that people can take me seriously as a mature person … not like as kid
SW, how do you aim to do that?
Blogging is about dialogue and interaction. Comments are an integral part of that.
This is something I always wondered. I love blogs that allow me to subscribe via email. But, when I triage my email I attend first to those messages where my reply is expected. Blog posts take second priority.
Of course, that means I am never first. In fact, today I am 164th, but I no longer feel bad about it. Thanks for answering this question for me. (Hopefully, saying “thank you” is still meaningful in this strange world.)
Hey Brian!
You’re absolutely right. You have covered one of the most controversial facts for many bloggers.
Commenting is one of the best ways for getting high quality traffic from a related website to ours. Also, branding is another benefit of this powerful strategy.
However, as you mentioned, it could only be useful if we have something to offer. In fact, what’s the point of attracting prospects to a website or blog lacking good content?!
Commenting is one of the hundreds of generating traffic techniques. But, converting that traffic to a desired action is also important. If we provide a valuable content on our blogs, we don’t need to worry about leaving fast comments on other larger blogs.
On the other hand, a unique content would always attract traffic. Just leave a comment here and there and let your audience spread the word. Trust me! Everybody would start recommending, sharing and talking about your blog.
Thank you again Brian for this article that makes us think more about what we are doing on the web.
Peace!
Hooshmand
I have never had someone leave a comment that said “First” on my blog, but oh how I long for that day
I think blogs and commenting on them–thoughtful, meaningful comments–are a good way to network. However, blogs can be VERY time consuming too. It’s best to set aside a certain time period each week to blog read and comment.
I wrote a guide to blog commenting many moons ago that agrees with your points quite closely, Brian (see link in my name attached to this comment). Thanks for posting this.
Trust, not traffic, should be the main reason for doing this.
I have never left a comment that said “First” , might give it a go !
Last hopefully … hehe its not a s p a m
i just saw people competing for first so thought last one is reserved for me
plesssss let me be last post holder here
Last!!
Just kidding
Commenting is actually neutral, what makes it good or bad is the content on your site (which clickers will find out later on). But it’s not easy to build good contents, that’s why we have to keep learning and improving, including from mistakes. All of us, including you, Brian
I totally agree with you. If you don’t have real unique content, then what is the point in really driving traffic to your site. This goes back to having the right product or the content to retain the visitors who visits your site. So you make a good point – first create unique consistent content, then build the relationship.
I really hate the “drop by” connections that some make on my site. Occaisionally, I will be curious enough to click on their link but usually I just delete them.
On the other side of the comment-coin, I never do it to others -leave the one word, opportunistic comments just to get someone to go to my site. I figure if I can’t build a relationship with another blogger by sharing legitimate feedback, I don’t deserve their “click”.
I’m glad that you tell us like it is; we’re all better bloggers/writers because of it. Thanks.
Kellie
You know, having millions of bloggers running around trying to figure out how to get traffic to their blogs is going to lead to all kinds of crazy strategies. I’ve thought about whether or not being the first post would be beneficial. I decided it wasn’t, and that it would be WAY too much stress to try to be that guy. I’m just starting out blogging because I want to simplify my life, not make it more complicated.
PS Do you think the “strong silent type” strategy would work?
In a blogger’s life, time constraints are a big problem. Dedicating time to writing quality content is key, while still leaving yourself enough time to promote your blog authentically in the right places. For me, commenting on other people’s blogs does triple duty. I get to learn a lot from thought leaders in online marketing, I get to share some thoughts noodling around in my brain, and I also get to do some cross-promotion while I’m at it. I do feel online marketers should comment on other people’s blogs because it is a great way to participate in a community, raise awareness about certain issues (like the right way to do things online), and learn, learn, learn!
Interaction leads to creative thinking. Discourse increases the possibility of new ideas. It’s when we talk to each other that the good stuff happens, in comments.
I think this is the first time I’ve spent this much time reading this many comments on a single blog post (just found copyblogger today, and I may not get anything else done for the rest of the day). So many interesting perspectives to take in. I’ve only been blogging for a little over a month, so I’m still trying to fathom the huge realm of strategies for driving traffic. As someone who only posts a comment when I read something that really moves me, it’s disheartening to realize that people are throwing around vague, meaningless comments for the sole purpose of being first or generating clickbacks (ooh, it’s a cold, vile world out there). As someone who also has a full-time office job and a 2-year-old to entertain when I get home from said job, I’ve got little time to worry about new post alerts so I can be first to comment. Really? Are these the kinds of things people are obsessing over? Man, I’ve got a lot to learn.
Brian, spot on you are about first-commenters wanting the opportunity for the most traffic via their sometime inane comments.
Here is a video I made on how I think blog commenting should be done ( http://danielmcgonagle.name/videos/BlogCommenting/ )
There are several criteria you need to consider prior to doing blog commenting:
#1 is obviously investigation and research into what sites you want to comment on, which is based on >
#2 – what your goal is for your blog commenting campaign (link building, interested, targeted traffic)
#3 – is sometimes a largely misunderstood concept and that’s finding DoFollow blogs to comment on. I say this is a misunderstood (and mis-used) concept and tactic because people doing commenting for higher ranking via commenter names like
Singapore SEO,
or tractor repair indiana
are most likely going to leave keywords as names as you so rightly pointed out.
and like you ALSO pointed out, leaving KWs instead of names not only tells blog owner the purpose behind the comment (using YOU) but also tends to get those commenters banned from making future comments.
I’m not saying I’m a know-it-all, but I did add value to your conversation and blog post by posting a content video about blog ocmmenting that will help people, and that’s how part of the intention behind allowing comments in the first place: to enrich the conversation, exchange ideas, add value etc…
I can tell you that blog commenting is NOT one of main sources for traffic or backlinks, however if you are picky about the sites you comment on, that most likely means you’re leaving longwinded (in my case
) comments that hopefully add to the convo and gets appreciated in some form or another whether it be traffic to link behind name, or just to let you the blog owner know that I DIGG yer stuff.
Good post here,
Thanks,
Dan
sinaporeseo dot com (j/k ! )
I agree,
If you’re not offering anything of value to your visitors, why waste their time and yours to invite them over to your blog. What good is traffic for the sake of traffic? It just creates a bottleneck.
Rasheed
No idea if my words will add something after 180 comments, is there also value in being the LAST instead of the FIRST or SECOND with a comment?
Nowadays blogs do tend to look more like forums
I enjoy commenting, I also enjoy getting more traffic. I´ve built some “relationships” most a lot of bloggers are too lazy to comment back to their commenters. Myself included….
Hi Brian
I found your blog is full of great information about blogging, I remember when I first started, thinking I was going to make lots of money, Imade a little got one check from Google Adsnse, this year, but I want to make it realy go, Time is what it will take for my pages to get traffic, Well take care Brian and thanks for the great blog you run. Edward Clements.
I think that adding comments is useful when you add your opinions to the piece. Better yet add value. If it is just about backlinks, then off course, it would be a waste of time.
It reflects badly to you (the one leaving the comment) too
Great Post brian, makes sense.. well i just thought i would say Thank u for this post!:)
You are absolutely right about this theme and It takes time to get traffic from commenting other blogs, I have learned from this that we have to be friendly blogger to each other and is this way we can get traffic.
Thanks Again
Alam
twitter.com/alamest
I used to leave comment using the keyword that my blog optimized, I realized that it didn’t help in building my brand. So, I’ve changed this few days and I used to leave comment using my own name in all the blogs. My blog traffic is actually increasing and the number of comments in my post is definitely increasing a lot. Leaving comment in the right way can actually improves our blog, so we need to do it wisely.
Regards,
Lee
I’m new to the blogging world so this is a great read. Very informative. Content is definitely more important, I think, but when you are first getting started I think you gotta get your name out there anyway you can.
An excellent post, again. I have a different perspective on commenting on blogs and forums. Personally I find it almost impossible to write a junk, one line post. I’m way too verbose for that
I also cannot write a meaningless comment. Sometimes I comment on the comments but mostly it’s the content of the post which gets the nod, as it should be.
In this instance the post and the comments are quite fascinating. I have never found commenting to bring direct click-through traffic, perhaps my posts are just too boring or I don’t seek out high traffic blogs to comment on.
No, for me the benefit is in the backlinking and the traffic which the search engines bring. For that reason I may, sometimes, use keywords in my name but not always.
I agree that online security should be of concern and so rarely provide more than general information about myself or location to anyone online.
The thing I am struggling with is not whether to comment but where to comment?
It seems to me that most of us smaller newer bloggers (and BTW looking at Copyblogger’s subscriber numbers I guess it’s in the A list…) would perhaps benefit more from interacting with other smaller blog simply because these people are more likely to notice. As well as this issue smaller bloggers are sometimes configured for DoFollow i.e. you can gain some PageRank benefits for writing a decent comment.
One thing you will NEVER catch me doing is writing a comment on someone else’s blog. I mean, what a complete waste of time. Otherwise, how would I get stuff like this done?
I will be honest the only reason why I comment on blogs related to my niche is for the purpose of backlinking and driving traffic to my blog, but im not going to be an a-hole and write 3 words and expect to get people to my site. Im not going to disrespect the blogger and spam his blog, I will read the post and give an honest comment about what I think.
I enjoy commenting and leaving valuable comments. Voicing out your own ideas or opinions on other people’s work or sharing tips and expertise is in itself rewarding.
Interacting with the blog owner or other contributors also build relationships and networking. I believe contributing something of value each time you comment on blogs can generate some interesting traffic in the long run. Some people would want to learn more about you. And the more blogs you comment on, the more traffic you can potentially get. It’s also a numbers game.
I’ve been wanting to start commenting on blogs for a while now, but haven’t found the right post to motivate me. This seemed like the perfect one to help me jump into the comment pool. I’m going to give the commenting strategy a try for a while. I figure that if it doesn’t drive traffic to my blog, then at least it should inspire my thinking.
This definitely sheds some new light into my traffic strategy. I usually leave comments if the information was truly helpful. But one thing i definitely need to do is improve my content. Thanks for the tips.
Commenting on blogs with the hope of a reader clicking on your own site is a bit like hanging up a poster or business card on a supermarket bulletin board. Maybe someone will pick it up, maybe they’ll be interested enough to call or maybe they’ll toss it when they get home. Certainly a onesy-twosey approach, not great for reaching large-scale traffic.
That said, there’s something delightful about being able to write something and see it “published” so quickly for others to read. There’s an actual sense of “belonging” that goes along with it. A sense of being connected to the blogger and the other commenters. While the connection may not endure beyond the moment, it is nonetheless a real experience at that moment. Of course it may be, and is usually, entirely one-sided, unless someone specfically comments back or contacts you. Often the blogger will comment back, which creats a nice, fuzzy feeling.
Musing on it right now, it could even be called an “intimate” experience. I recently wrote about this in my own blog (linked via my name).
This has been a fun blog post to follow, whether or not anyone has any interest in my business. It’s somewhat of a community, even. Like an ongoing party you can drop into now and then because it keeps going on and on and …
It’s funny I came across this article because I was thinking about commenting on a popular blog related to my niche but still haven’t found much blogs yet. I then remembered ‘copyblogger.com’ mentioned in my Blog master mind, A weekly email lesson on building a blog, lesson # 6. I admit I too tried the tried and almost true method of first place commenting but you put it in retrospect, What’s the purpose when they simply click, view the page for a sec or two and leave? I now no longer even use programs to update me of new posts on popular blogs to leave first comments because I then haphazardly skim through an article and try to leave a comment that seems genuine but lacking substance. Nice article and good wake up call, I’d recommend this to starting bloggers.
Focus focus focus if ypou don’t focus your comment in business related to you you make a wrong comment, yes or not? i hope to be the last comment .
Not a comment for the sake of comment, but I was wondering if there is any strategy for not mentioning the dates of posts at Copyblogger! If there is, may we know what that is?
Hello, I am new to blogging and the new internet thing. I have been blogging for three months and I have been visiting other sites out of curiosity and to compare content etc. I have received a request for a guest posting and someone else featured me on their blog. Your information is so valuable because I was doing this blindly and now I have a strategy.
I thank you,
I agree. Laving comments on someone else’s blog just to generate traffic to your own blog is Lame.
But if you disagree you can click my name above and visit my log and leave comments about my articles.
Is there a way to put anchor text in blog comments and if yes how and is that considered ok?
I made it this far.
And I read the majority of comments too.
Perhaps a mathematician could come up with a formula. The age of a blog article – and add to that – how large the number of comments has become – which will give a total of a count of the readers who have made it down this far to this comment. Surely a tiny amount – compared to when the post was fresh and the comments were few?
You all seem to be writers. I’m a drawer. I communicate more with visuals than with words.
Today I decided to look on the web to see if there was any advice on strategies on how to using commenting to get traffic. This was the first site I came to and confirmed what I think about the issue.
I don’t think I blog. I make an illustration a week for a word. I don’t have comment fields. And I don’t write much.
The good practices outlined above are the same for us visual people except we have sites that we also contribute to with images – rather than written comments. Such as Illustration Friday, Doodlers Anonymous – even twitter has a doodle fest.
Why I got this far is because I’m a bit lazy and this is me trying to get some information about how to up my game and get relevant visitors to my site.
You guys probably don’t fit – could this be reverse psychology?
Alan/Stooryduster, have you ever thought about enabling comments on your site? There’s no reason why a visual “blogger” couldn’t be supported by verbal commentary. Hugh Macleod’s work at GapingVoid.com comes to mind.
Spammy comments or its-about-me comments, while literally killing the discussion, can take you into some really humorous turns. Kinda digressing from a discussion that is becoming too serious. A quick, humorous, off-topic comment really brings a smile to any new lurker (like me) of any blog.
My blogs are so new I’d be glad of ANY visitors, ’spammy’ or not.
Seriously though, the advise is useful, and I’m glad of it.
How does one find blogs to comment on? It isn’t easy to google new blogs. It would be helpful to list a way if there is an easy way!
It continues to become apparent that “pure” motives while engaging in social media activities are simply more sustainable.
Like a previous commenter alluded to the fact that the “get rich quick” approach seems to always be short lived, and those who have the right intentions, win in the end. I guess patience is truly a virtue!
I like the approach you’ve taken on this topic.
Firstly, Alan/Stooryduster you really do need to add the comments section, it works gangbusters for YouTube and perhaps there is a graphic plugin you can get for your site so people can leave a doodle or some such as a response similar to the YouTube video responses.
Imran, it’s easy to find blogs to comment on, do a search on your keywords like this + blog and you’ll find hundreds. I just did that for my keywords and found 906,000 results most of which will be ones I can comment on. Leave valid comments on all of them, even the no-follow ones because you still get a PR0 link from them.
There is no substitute for actually visiting the blog and leaving a valid comment, you can use software to speed up the visiting and filtering the sites to visit but you still have to write a comment yourself. Automation of that part will get your comment dumped and rightly so.
Sometimes or shall I say most of the time comments may be proved worthless but hey a comment is still a comment, positive or negative, 1st or last, these comments means traffic and traffic means your blog is worth checking for.
Great — I love it when the “get rich quick” method is unwrapped, revealing a very ordinary one that’s not quick, but works.
My blogs are so new I’d be glad of ANY visitors, ’spammy’ or not.
Seriously though, the advise is useful, and I’m glad of it.
Great article…I’ve read about so many of these “tactics” for getting more traffic to my blog and they all seem like crap to just really building relationships and adding to the community, just like you said. It was great to read what I was thinking, especially starting out.
Aaron
Great article.
Spot on about leaving a short comment like thank for great post or nice article isnt going to help you. Infact if your comment adds value and is interesting your more likely to get some visiters. Especially when your starting a new blog this is proberly the best method the get traffic as it will take you a bit of time to rank high in search engines for your keywords.
Building relations is also very importent as you can help each other.
I hope I was “first” to get more website traffic but I am too late. Too bad for comment-traffic-strategists like me.
Just wanted to add that comments are meant to be this way – i.e. with a link to the site of the “commenter” because the slot is there. I saw some blogs that the “Website” slot is not showing or disabled.
Blog-to-blog promotions is nothing if this is not working so… here’s my spam?…
Great tips and I think many people who try to use blog commenting as their sole promotion medium are fooling themselves if they think this is the cure all. I think it is something that is overlooked if you do it right and concentrate on a few blogs daily in your niche as you can grab some of their traffic but for those who just go all over and comment I think it is more of a time waster than anything.
The do-follow thing is the make or break for this ’strategy’ isn’t it? Unless I misunderstand how it works, one kind doesn’t allow backlinks and the other does. Shoot – I can’t remember which is which….
Hey Brian,
A great comment is like an unsolicited great guest post.
In fact, it ceases to be a comment. It jumps into the telephone booth, takes off the suit, and becomes a mini-article.
It is related to the original article: expanding on the topic, adding a different viewpoint, or challenging with a thought-out question.
It offers a link back to your own great content on a high-traffic and relevant blog. This is assuming you write great content as a comment. Otherwise, no one will care to read more.
I strive to write great mini-articles on Copyblogger and other high-traffic and relevant blogs, with the desire to add value to those reading through the comments section – and hopefully get some of those readers interested enough to check out more of what I have to say.
Great article on whether commenting on blogs is a smart strategy. Like with anything I suppose, it’s only smart if you only do great stuff.
Thanks,
Oleg
thanks a million for this post Brian, you’ve hit the nail on the head when you said its all about building relationships, be it on blogposts, twitter whatever. The quick click will come and go, but if you bring something of value in your comments then you will see the rewards, thanks again.
I completely agree that focused commenting is the best way. It is confusing to me when I see ’social media strategists’ sending out garbage all over the web instead of focusing in on relevant subjects.
Thanks for the good word!
I’m 221’st… does that still count as a ‘first’
no real content to aadd here, just saw a 1st opening and took it!
generally speaking, I do try to add relevant content or opinions, and commenting really is something I should do far more often than I do.
This page is absolutely great!…I have added it to my preferred blog lists on my page, I think it will be very helpful to my readers. Thanks for sharing a lot of blog wisodm.
Aureliano
I agree with what you’re saying here, and not all bloggers know this, or even care, so thanks for putting it out there.
It’s rather unlikely that I would benefit from spamming big international blogs in my niche, even IF I get a lot of curiousity traffic. Besides, I write in Norwegian, so the likelyhood of me getting actual traffic is really low.
Its a great point you got there. Yes I think it is important to comment on other blogs and it does not necessarily have to be gor getting traffic. I think that your initial reason for leaving a comment on a certain blog is becuase you actually enjoyed the post and have got something out of it for yourself and secondly you are interacting with the writer. Comments have to be thoroughly thought through (phew) and meaningful and helpful to the reader and not just there to take up space and show that you were there with comment like “wow” or “good”. Not much insight in that comment. That’s all I wanted to share. Thank you
Ha, how bizarre, I was just in the process of finding blogs to comment on to build my traffic (if I must be so honest). Brian you’re absolutely right. Did you employ this strategy yourself at all to help get copyblogger off the ground in the initial phases???? I’d love to know your thoughts. I’ve just released a new book & am keen to build the traffic to the site… Any comments would be great. Cheers Ben
I stumbled on CopyBlogger by accident and would have to spend the next few weeks soaking-in your rich content. This is the second blog post I am reading here and I must confess I am very impressed by your posts. They are insightful.
Being a blogger myself, I would implement some of the ideas offered – the ones relevant to me.
1. You are right that most blog commenters are bloggers themselves. That has been my experience.
2. You are right that leaving a few meaningful comments is more impressive than several incoherent comments.
Keep up the good work.
I agree most comments are from other bloggers but how many comments actually get read? Sometimes it is only the original blogger that reads the comment. If I have read the article I give myself a little bump and get a link to the latest website I am working on.
Interesting. I don’t even have a reader feed! lol.
There are definitely folks who comment on my blog who don’t read the content.
Great post-
I noticed on FB the folks who post a thread when it is a good one, meaning it is on the topic I pick up one to three new friends. In essence your advice is spot on.
Glendon
I found this analysis helpful. I’m very new to this relationship with unknown, unseen folks challenging. I want to train myself to ’see’ the person I’m responding to. I shall try to think more and write more slowly in the future. I don’t yet understand the intricate spider web of multiple-linked interaction that I read so much about. Thanks for your review of this topic.
I am betting this wont be post number 1 *grins*
I am fairly new to blogging and even newer to the concept of commenting on blogs, so I am glad that one of the first posts I read on the topic promoted good content and intelligent, useful comments.
Content is about integrity – how can you hold your head up and proudly put your name to content that is poor, or worse still spun from PLR articles? (I learned about PLR articles and content spinning the other day and it shocked me. I Guess as a writer, I fail to see the value of taking something that is poorly written, and spinning it to create the same content that is even more poorly written). Of course taking something that is written and adding to it, putting a new unique spin on it or improving it is something else – it is done in academia and the news media all the time.
If you are posting so that you become visible, build relationships and drive some traffic to your own blog or site, then the content of your comments is as important as the content of your site. I know I would not bother to look at a site if the comment was poorly written or had glaring grammatical and spelling errors.
I read somewhere that comments should not be me focused – and reading back I see that this one is, but hopefully it contributes something to the general discussion, that is the aim anyway.
LOL to the first two comments.
I used to think that leaving comments will create backlinks. But here in copyblogger, I just enjoy reading posts so much that I have to leave something to say.
Thank you. I have heard that commenting on blogs is helpful but as you stated I have been getting a lot of unqualified traffic. I will look for more related blogs to comment on.
I like leaving little notes to acknowledge my participation in reading. Some blogs have 0 comments…those I like commenting on partly to encourage the authors.
This one has so many comments that it’s a lot to read, and it must lessen the impact of my little comment at the end, hmm?!
Here’s my question…assuming impeccable content…is it better to make my “website” bring folks to a landing page or to the front page?
I am new to this and I just learned the importance of networking and supporting other bloggers. I think depending on your niche yes it is a great strategy.
It’s hard for me to believe some bloggers are making $20-40K/month merely blogging. But in almost every case their strategy involves meaningful, thought provoking content that gains followers. The viral marketing concept seems labor intensive and almost a waste of time in the beginning. But in the end it’s a leverage tool that can move mountains.
Clever insights … no wonder it took me a day to read all the comments here
As for me, I appreciate the quality of the post while commenting and sometimes, even that becomes a matter of banality.
Hmmm I’m afraid that I could be guilty of the “first comment” syndrome… can it be classified as a syndrome, or should we just leave it as nOOb mistake? Either way, I throw myself at the mercy of the court.
I’m number 239! Great post. This was exactly what I was looking for. FYI, this is top ranked in “SEO techniques ‘commenting on blogs’”. I was thinking it would be effective because the site themes are similar. Now I’m not so sure; I always have to make it “thought provoking” apparently. Eek…how much brain cells to do that.
This particular post is also amazing for being able to generate 200+ comments. I will write before I search, but I wish there was an article that focuses on making people comment. That’d be a good skill to have.
I have to admit, after comment 40+ I already jumped down to the bottom, but the sheer number still amazes me.
I had this all planed. I was just sitting back waiting for the right time. I’m 240th, thank you. 100 characters over 140 characters, which is the limit of characters in a twitter tweet. There’s something there.
DOH!!
Commenting is good whether it’s your niche or not. If the conversation motivates you, good enough.
I suppose the majority of “successful” bloggers grew their blog by being first to comment.
However, it does work for some to be first and meaningful or just first. I think the meaningful ones have the longevity though.
Curiosity clicks will always be there and some might become sticky.
Whether it’s being first, a goofy looking Gravatar or interesting name, some people just gotta click. Kind of like the folks who click on pop-up ads, spyware, and “How to Become a Millionaire with Curiosity Clicks” claims. Sounds like a good eBook anyway.
Now, hopefully I’m really 240th after clicking on the submit button or you haven’t closed the comments.
Does it really have a huge impact if you leave the first comment in a specific blog? Sometimes, I find it unfair that people actually leave comments just for the sake of getting backlinks. The author will definitely appreciate it if you say something nice or relevant to the subject of the post.
Hi,
a totally diferent strategy, being the last to write a comment to a popular post
Of course, it only works providing the post author is not closing comments; there can always be a next one; and the number of readers will reduce exponentially as the blog entry ages.
But, at least when there are many comments, some people just scroll down to the end, and just read the last comments. And surely if there are many comments, you know the post has been quite succesful and is attracting readers, links, backlinks, etc.
It is interesting that you generated a meaningful discussion about something that, before I read your article, seemed so trivial to me.
I see it has generated so many comments about commenting. As I am very new and green to this, I am not sure if commenting should be viewed as a strategy.
i.e. I see nothing wrong in leaving a genuine word or two comments, that I liked someone’s post. In fact, I really thought I was going to do just that.
However, what I got from the article almost suggested to me that the author would prefer me to refrain from “I like your post” sort of comment, if I didn’t have to say anything else? Maybe I am wrong, even naive to think of a comment as anything else but the comment. I don’t see anything wrong in one liners as long as they are genuine.
As the author says, it is a commentator’s blog content that counts whether the commentator is going to generate any traffic to his/her own site in the future.
Surely, commenting on someone else’s post should be only about the content of the article we are commenting about. Nothing else, nothing more.
If you ask me, I’d much rather see those one liners or tick(s) in my boxes “interesting”, “funny” or even “rubbish”, then nothing at all.
In saying all this lets not forget the original intention of my comment was to say only: I really like this post(Very interesting, educational even)
I’m wondering if anyone has knowledge as to whether Google still values inbound links from blog posts like this one.
Everyone gets so caught up in posting to do follow blogs and how to do it correctly, and the quality of the content…etc. As important as all that is, the question remains as to whether the backlink itself is valued by Google still?
Wow…I’m the 245th commenter, just like a simple drop in the ocean! But my (first here!) comment is only another appreciation for your excellent blog and your top posts. I started since just a few days to read you on a semi-regular basis and Copyblogger is now an undeleteble new entry in my bookmarks.
P.S. Merry Christmas from Italy and pardon my English
Comments do lead to traffic.
People will read what you wrote,
and feel the need to findout more about you.
That simple.
Since I started doing this my traffic has increased 30%. So it is well worth the time and energy to post thoughtful comments in forums. This has been my experience. I think you are missing out, if you do not comment you are missing out on very valuable traffic.
There are 247 people who have commented on this article before me. I scanned through the comments and read the few that caught my eye.
Some comments lengthy, others short. None, however, had cramped formatting (i.e. insufficient line spacing), had overly long paragraphs or contained smileys.
Call me a cynic, call me a snob, but don’t call me a liar.
What we need to realize is good content trumps all when doing any kind of writing whether its articles, blog posts or comments. Having the frame of mind of helping one another will steer you away from rushing to create backlinks for your blogs. The new bloggers are told to comment and create backlinks to get traffic to their blogs, yet they’re not coached properly on building themselves up for the long term by offering quality advice for others first. This post hit the nail right on the head and it all starts with people trying to get something without giving first.
This goes against what I have been told, but makes a lot of sense.
I think it’s great to hear back from users who are interested in the topic and have something to say. My problem is having enough time to comment on all the great posts i read!
I think a good way to predict the linkability / likeability of a comment lies in observation. How do you feel after commenting? Do you like it yourself?
If you can be positive about this, what else matters?
What are your thoughts about Dofollow and Nowfollow comments?
I was scrolling down to say precisely what Michelle – Word Ninja said! I have found some of the most fascinating blogs and cyber-met some of the most interesting people from comments.
I’ve never once sought out someone who simply announce their position (although I’m certain the ones in this post did it to be funny – they made me laugh, anyway). I seek out people who have something worthwhile to say. It makes me want to hear more!
And with that said, I’m off to learn more about Michelle – Word Ninja. Coffee Ninja meets Word Ninja – we’ll get along splendidly.
Your tips are a breath of fresh air- content is still king and inanity will sink as much as it stinks!
It is common sense (which is no where near common enough) that quality will beat quantity in the long run, the growth of spam means that it is hated ever more as a bandwidth hugging disease that needs killing with the disinfectant of quality content.
I have a doubt in posting comments on blogs. Suppose I need to post a comment on blog having PR 2. I found it. But when I opened the blog. I found several posts. I posted comment on a post, but the PR is 0. This means, the home page of the blog has PR 2 and the post page has PR 0. Does google counts the home page PR or the post page PR?
I think commenting can help SEO, but probably direct traffic is not the way to go.
Brian,
Thank you for writing this post!
I am new to blogging and this was very useful in helping me know when to and when not to leave comments for people.
Thanks again for expressing your ideas and passing on your knowledge!
interesting article Brian.
I’ve been trying this. I make it a point that the link back to my site is to a post that is similar to the post I’m commenting on. So far, the results have been promising. So maybe there is something to blog commenting.
Yup! Commenting can be a media for creating real readr- relationship and retained friendship that is impossible by the other medium. So I admit the great commenting too.
ya always comment to something relevant…
great content, this is so true, first when i started bloging i use to comment everywhere and expected to to increase the traffic to my blog, there is no point because the traffic only increases clicks on those days when u actually comment on other blogs, when you stop you get no clicks..:)
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