How to Create a Rock-Solid Tagline
That Truly Works

by James Chartrand

Rock Solid

Nike said, “Just do it.” Nortel told you to come together. Timex said it takes a licking and keep on ticking. And GE mentioned that it brings good things to life.

Well, good for GE. As far as you’re concerned, you’d probably be happy figuring out how to bring your tagline to life.

Tagline, strapline, slogan… Whatever you choose to call it, it’s all the same. It’s the key phrase that identifies your business by capturing the essence of three elements:

  • Your mission
  • Your promise
  • Your brand

Coming up with a great tagline is a struggle many people face. More often than not, they get it wrong by focusing on what their product or service is and neglecting what it offers.

To capture a reader’s eye at a glance, you need to combine all three elements of mission, promise and brand to create a great tagline that really works. Here’s how:

Step One –Your True Mission

There’s a saying in the copywriting world: Be clear, not clever.

Considering that most of us aren’t the best at coming up with the coolest phrases ever uttered on the face of the Earth, that’s sage advice, especially on the web.

Don’t be cool. In the virtual world, there’s no time for cool. People who don’t know you, your business, your products or your services land on your website. In a fraction of a second, they decide whether to leave or to stay.

Be clear, not clever. Start building a tagline with the purpose of your site. Decide what you have to offer. Are you setting up a blog for marketing tips? Is your website about productivity tools? Do you sell web content? Love songs? Toilet Cleaners?

Pick the focus of your site – and stick with it.

Step Two – So What?

Let’s say your business is iced tea. You sell iced tea mixes, you offer cups, glasses and mugs, and you’re going to have a blog to establish authority as the Iced Tea Emperor.

Your blog’s tagline will probably start something like this: “Iced tea tips…”

And this is where people get jammed. Rockin’ iced tea tips? Great iced tea tips? Iced tea to go?

None of the above. The average visitor that lands on your site doesn’t care. Nothing stands out, nothing seems attractive, nothing compels him to stay.

There’s one fast, easy way to get past this obstacle. Ask yourself this question: “So what?”

The answers you’ll come up with are the benefits a visitor (or potential customer) receives from staying on your site – and that’s important. People always want something. By adding benefits to a tagline, you’re telling people what’s in it for them and what they get from you.

If you’re really smart, use those benefits as selling points throughout your site copy, too. Don’t harp on about how great your product is – tell people what benefits they receive if they buy what you have to sell.

So what are the benefits of iced tea? Iced tea can:

  • Help you quench your thirst
  • Help you hydrate your body
  • Perk you up
  • Cool you down
  • Leave you feeling refreshed

Benefits are the key to better copy, better sales and better business online.

Step Three: A Little Pizzaz

Alright, so you have your mission and you have your benefits. Now you have to add some branding.

Make your tagline reflect your business image. Differentiate yourself from the competition. Your business has a personality, so show it. Give people a little taste of your business’s brand in your tagline.

Let’s say your iced tea business is a little Zen-like. You like to promote tea as relaxing. You want people to enjoy a quieter life. Your website colors are pale and fresh, and even your blog’s tone seems to be calming. That’s your branding at work right there.

Put it to work in your tagline, too.

Pick an adjective that encompasses your business image, take the summary of your benefits and tack that to your mission. What do you get?

“Soothing iced tea tips to revitalize your life.” That’s a great tagline.

Bonus Section: It’s Fun to Pick on Others

Need some practice? Here are two taglines for you to pick apart:

  • Web Business Tips for Writers, Freelancers and Online Entrepreneurs
  • Copywriting Tips for Online Marketing Success

Do they answer all three elements of a great tagline? Are they effective for the web? Would they attract you? What would you change?

Or, maybe you have your own tagline to worry over. Put it up and see if inspiration comes from some helpful suggestions.

You might just end up with a rock-solid tagline that truly works.

About the Author: James Chartrand is the interim editor of Copyblogger due to the abrupt disappearance of Brian Clark. He blogged previously at Men with Pens.

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1 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 10:25 am

Nice article James !

I find everything very clear, full of wisdom and experience, until I try and apply it to my own business… and then it’s chaos.

How am I supposed to describe strange looking unique stuffed toys in an attractive way ? My taglines now vary from “Zoohliah – Over the Rainbow”, and “Zoohliah – plushes to live with” to “Zoohliah – not fit for cynical people”.

I hate to open the discussion by asking advice, but I’m stuck, and I have nothing to add to James’ great article :)

2 Daniel April 1, 2008 at 10:36 am

Hei I really enjoyed this article!
As for something you could have mentioned, regarding what #1 asked, stop using negations (NO,NOS,NOT) in your tagline.
I think people are more interested in what to expect vs. what to NOT expect.

3 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 10:43 am

@ Daniel – Ah, habit. I have long learned to remove all negation from my content, so to me, no tagline would ever include a negative word or negative connotation.

@ Jooliah – Alright, let’s look at this. What do Zooliahs do? Why should people buy one? Are they cute? Are they comfortable? Do they reassure children? How will people feel after they own a Zooliah? How will their life change?

Zooliahs – Creating smiles on little faces for brighter days.

That’s just an example, but it shows what people get from Zooliahs – brighter days, smiles. So… you tell me? What do people get when they have a Zooliah in their home?

4 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 11:10 am

@ Daniel – very true about the negative content, thanks :)

@ James – ok, answering your questions here : they give you hugs and lift your spirits when you’re sad. There are very confortable for reading, watching TV, traveling… They are sooo cute (I don’t say that because they’re my own :P ). Children love them because they can take them everywhere, give them hugs and rest their head on them when they’re tired. People get great toys which fit in their modern and fashionable house. Or that highlight their traditional house.

Erm… I need to think some more. I can’t get out of the taglines I already have. I need to have a clean start. I’ll get back to you ;)

5 Sonia Simone April 1, 2008 at 11:17 am

I’ll be contrary and (while I think Daniel’s suggestion is correct 95% of the time) suggest that “not fit for cynical people” is wonderful. One problem with a cheerful, spirit-lifting sort of product is that you can get Hallmark-y very fast. Your “cynical people” tag line is fresh and conveys the message quickly with a little humor and a lot of warmth.

One person’s opinion, anyway. :)

6 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 11:19 am

@ Sonia – I see where you’re coming from, but wordsmith it a bit more. When people see “not” in a phrase, their minds still assimilate the negative aspect and it does more damage than good.

How about, “Even cynics love them” or “Cynic-friendly”? Not very good suggestions on the spur of the moment, but that helps convey my point: Cynic is good, “not” is not.

Make sense?

7 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 11:22 am

@ Sonia – That’s what I thought of when I wrote this one, but then Daniel’s point made me think twice… I’m glad you like it and understand it that way though :)

I’ll try and keep that spirit for the “definitive” tagline.

8 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 11:24 am

@ James – ok, got it… gotta think A LOT more.

But I’ll be back, niark niak niark ! (french maniac laugh)

9 Amy April 1, 2008 at 11:32 am

Dearest James,

I’m one step away from changing your nickname from Imperialistic Dude to April Fool. LOL@you for that. But much applause for the great post.

Men With Pens: Taking Over the World One Blog at a Time

How’s that? Too clever? :-|

10 GoingLikeSixty April 1, 2008 at 11:46 am

(here from Men with Pens)

I’m a boomer hobby blogger – a hogger, a blobby…
anyway: I ran my tagline thru your test and think I did OK

Suitably Old But Mysteriously Advanced.

Of course, I posted here just to show off! But I can take criticism too. A little.

11 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 11:51 am

@ Going – Love that domain name and tagline… but unless you’re selling yourself, I’d add a little more definition to what it is you’re offering :)

And yeah, that Men with Pens site does rock, doesn’t it?

12 Roberta Rosenberg April 1, 2008 at 11:52 am

Excellent post, James! Should be required reading for every client who has said to me … “Roberta, can you just knock off a quick tag line for us.”

13 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 11:54 am

Copywriting Maven:

Fast taglines for a speed-of-light business.

14 GoingLikeSixty April 1, 2008 at 12:00 pm

@James:
Thanks for your kind comments.

I have a problem with Men With Pens. In my mind’s eye, I see Men with Penis. (Probably because of the domain joke: PenIsland.com)

I’m not selling anything. No market for a blog that let’s me release my inner smart ass. Yet. If you know of anything…

15 Roberta Rosenberg April 1, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Thank you, James! :)

16 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 12:03 pm

@ Going – How about “Smart-Ass Insight from the Suitably Old and Mysteriously Advanced?” Long but it tells people what you do.

As for the name… eyecatching, memorable, easy to say, makes people look twice… a marketer’s dream. And yes. Male.

17 Naomi Dunford April 1, 2008 at 12:10 pm

You and your damn taglines. :-)

@ joohliah — Whatever. I’m with Sonia. I like “Not Fit For Cynical People.” I figure if “The Real Thing” worked for Coke — which means absolutely nothing, as far as I’m concerned — “Not Fit For Cynical People” can work for you. James and I have agreed to disagree on this. :-)

18 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 12:16 pm

Ah, but there is a difference with Coke and with the Web. The problem with the web is that you have 1/16th of a second to get your point across.

Coke had cool music, pretty people, refreshing advertisements and masses of clients with very little competition.

Never be cool. Be clear.

19 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 12:17 pm

@ Going – I love your tagline too ! James’ is nice, although maybe a little too long…

@ Naomi – ooh then if the great Naomi from IttyBiz voted for “Not Fit For Cynical People”, I’ll have to give it a second chance :) I like it too. Oh, this sounds ironic doesn’t it ? It’s not :)

I’ll keep you posted, thanks for all your insights on this :)

20 Mark - Creative Journey Cafe April 1, 2008 at 12:44 pm

I toyed with different taglines for my blog. I was trying to accomplish too much and settled for simplicity and directness – something that rolls easily off the tongue.

Thanks for the helpful post!

21 Janice C Cartier April 1, 2008 at 1:22 pm

@joohliah-I checked out your site. These are too hip to hide. I want to see them anywhere except in rainbow laden lala land…”portable smiles even cynics can love”

@james- you weren’t kidding!!! Untie Brian right now.
Steps one and two, gotcha. Working with step three.
Because I am “selling ” access to me and indirectly my art work…very hard to write that up from the audience’s perspective. They will gain an insider’s perspective of art and process…creativity in context…better collecting appreciation and maybe some entertainment along the way….that is not exactly haiku, or a decent tagline.
Talking about the new blog of course, not the one currently up.

22 GoingLikeSixty April 1, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Thanks for the feedback. I’ll talk about me all you want.

James, taking your idea:

Ass-Toot Views
Suitably Old
But Mysteriously Advanced

23 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 1:34 pm

@ Jooliah – I dunno about you, but I have kids, and while I love encouraging their artistic views and widening their horizons, the last thing I have time for in a busy family life is getting an in on the Zooliah creator.

You’re selling to kids first, make no mistake. Kids are your target market. Parents with money are your indirect target market, because they will buy what their kids want. Win the kid, and you win the cash.

So parents have kids that are tired, cranky, demanding attention, happy, playful, need a friend… parents KNOW what their kids want/need. If your Zooliah can win over their kid, they’ll buy – but your marketing message has to be geared to that aspect.

You could play up the art bit, but to most busy parents, that may not matter. And since you’re not selling your creations as uber-expensive art but rather widely-accessible cool comfort toys…

See where I’m going with this?

24 Lisa Gates April 1, 2008 at 1:35 pm

James! I’m a coach masquerading as a copywriter, so this is incredibly helpful. We have a very new website and blog and I’m not a afraid to tell ya, I need help. Head empty.

Mission: We are a collective of uncommon coaches committed to personal responsibility and peace.

Taglines:
360 Alliance Coaching
Uncommon conversations, uncommon lives.

360 Alliance
Your Life Development Partner

360 Alliance Coaching
Someday is now

As you can see, nothing quite catches fire–ready for the red pen.

Gratitude!

25 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 1:45 pm

360 Alliance

“Coaching for a 360 head start on your life.”
“Do a 360 with your life – personal coaching that works.”
“Count on a 360 life with personal development coaching.”

?

26 Karen Swim April 1, 2008 at 1:58 pm

James, as always, smart, practical advice delivered with a smile. With you shining the spotlight I am confident I’ll reach my destination.

27 Joshua Goss April 1, 2008 at 2:23 pm

On the Zoohliah subject – I don’t see why cynical people wouldn’t like them.

But if this is just a hypothetical discussion, I agree with James; the negation doesn’t work. In order not to think of a pink elephant, you first have to think of a pink elephant. By saying “not for cynics” you are making people associate the product with cynics.

28 John Hoff April 1, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Very insightful and all points absorbed!

Ok, for the fun part.

My stance is sturdy, shotgun at aim, and my finger is itching to pull the trigger.

Web Business Tips for Writers, Freelancers and Online Entrepreneurs

I see who’s it for, but so what? Why should I read your tips over someone else’s? What’s in for me if I continue reading?

Possible rework – “Business Tips for Writers, Freelancers, & Online Entrepreneurs That Will Focus Your Work & Spark Creativity.”

Ok, might be a little long. Can we shorten it any?

Copywriting Tips for Online Marketing Success

I think this one’s a little more focused and not so general. I know exactly what it’s for, who it’s for, and what it hopes to accomplish (make me successful).

Do you have a rewrite for this tagline? Oh – is that a challenge I hear, Mr. Chartrand?

29 Brent Rinne April 1, 2008 at 3:20 pm

@ 26 & 27: “Do a 360…” would imply a returning to current position, as in orientation or changing direction.

With that in mind, but adding the idea of ascending to a new level:

360 Alliance
The personal coaching revolution.

30 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 3:24 pm

@ John Hoff – in my opinion your rewriting is very effective !

@ Janice – I’m so glad you like the Zoohliah, and thanks a lot for your tagline suggestion !

@ James – You’re right about the target being the kids. Although right now I’m kind of stuck as I don’t have norms for kids or anything… but that’ll come soon :)

Oh and I think “smart, practical advice delivered with a smile” should become your new tagline :P

@ Joshua – I have some very cynical friends who really think I’m nuts. I would have to pay them to put a Zoohliah in their home.
I hear what you say about negation. And I get it for the pink elephant, but it just doesn’t feel the same with my tagline suggestion. So I probably won’t use the cynical thing as a main tagline… but I’ll probably keep it as a joke on labels and website, somewhere :)

@ Lisa – I like James’ second suggestion best :)

31 Lisa Gates April 1, 2008 at 3:33 pm

Hey, thank you! I’m getting the feel for the benefits piece as I read your suggestions.

Jooliah, I like the second one best too.

BTW, being a recovering cynic, I secretly like the negative…

32 John Hoff April 1, 2008 at 3:34 pm

@ joohliah – oh I try, and thanks.

I’m sure James will have something to say about it.

33 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 3:45 pm

@ John – The problem with this tagline:

Web Business Tips for Writers, Freelancers and Online Entrepreneurs

is, as you say, lacking the “so what” answer. They know who it’s for, what they get… yeah, so what?

The problem? Length. Because our blog addresses three groups of people that do gravitate within one niche, we need to find a way to shorten WHO our target audience is OR give up on the “so what”, which is a bad, bad move.

And I couldn’t tell you the solution. Been struggling with this one for months (too close to my own work, perhaps). Too bad Brian wasn’t here; I’d be curious as to what he’d say.

As for this one:

Copywriting Tips for Online Marketing Success

I know the “so what” and I know generally who it’s for (people with websites/businesses) and I know what it is… but… where’s the va-va voom? What makes this attractive?

Could a simple adjective in front of “Copywriting Tips” change the whole tone and appeal? I think so…

34 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 4:02 pm

@ Lisa – I’m always somewhere between cynicism and idealism myself…

@ James – I think an adjective might do the trick. Like :
Unusual / Incredible / Effective…
And it IS true that it’s very difficult to find a tagline for oneself. Ask Naomi :P

35 Chad April 1, 2008 at 4:21 pm

Hey James – so where does “Shooting From The Hip” fit into all of this?

I think it’s a great tagline, but it certainly doesn’t tell me much about your blog…except the obvious allusion to it being MenWithPenis.

(assuming I understand the phrase “shoot from the hip” correctly – which means to react quickly without necessarily considering the consequences.)

Also, regarding the 360 Alliance tagline. One of my pet peeves is a tagline that has the same word as the title, which all of your samples did.

Don’t you think it’s already stated? Why not try to change things up a bit?

360 Alliance – Turn Your Life Around, Personal Coaching that Works.

Great post by the way. I may come across as a nitpicker here, but I really got a lot from your article!

36 John Hoff April 1, 2008 at 4:24 pm

Yes – for me it’s always easier to critique someone else’s work than it is to implement it for myself. I find this is because I alway have so much to say when others simply see – a tagline.

I agree with you and joohliah, an adjective might do well for that tagline.

37 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 4:26 pm

@ Chad – For clarity’s sake, I put the name in front of the tagline. I did not mean for them to appear integrated. I simply replicated what someone would see on a business banner of a website – the business name on one end, the tagline underneath, in one corner or elsewhere.

As for “shooting from the hip,” which means to react without thinking of consequences… I’m not sure where penises come into play. Could you clarify, because it seems I’m missing something here.

“Shooting from the hip” was never meant to be a tagline. It was a sort of side slogan and is not intended to be benefit, feature or audience based.

If you visit our blog, you’ll see our tagline is “Web Business Tips for blah blah blah.”

I don’t mind the nitpicking, but it’s a good idea to be informed before jumping in :)

38 Martin Jelsema April 1, 2008 at 4:29 pm

James, your post is clear, concise and compelling. And right on for the most part.

I’d just like to add a few thoughts. I’ve created my share of taglines, most often as an agency copywriter. In this arena the tagline is not usually a branding element so much as an ad “payoff”. Almost a summary. And yes, indeed, it should convey a product benefit.

Writing a tagline can be like writing a headline except the tagline will probably be used in several or many ads, all with different headlines.

But as a branding element, the idea of the tagline differentiating the brand is probably the most common function.

However, there are many who feel the tagline need not differentiate so much as to “set a mood”. Quite often, particularly for a really new product, the tagline can effectively position the product in a new category. And as you’ve stated, the tagline can communicate the brand promise.

So there are several functions a tagline can perform.

The one thing it should never be, however, is a platitude. The folks at Y2 Marketing said it best: If you’re reaction to a tagline is, “Well, I should hope so”, you have a platitude, a throw-away line that just takes up space.

Martin

ps: The newest GE tagline: “Imagination at Work”, is effective, particularly with shareholders like employees, investors, suppliers and distribution chain memebers.

39 Akemi - Yes to Me April 1, 2008 at 4:30 pm

This is a good post. I have changed the tagline of my blog several times, thinking about these points. The good part is it’s easy to change tagline as opposed to the name of the blog itself.

I also add a question (Does what you do align with your life purpose?) at the end of every post to keep a consistent message.

40 joohliah April 1, 2008 at 4:34 pm

@ James – It’s funny because until Chad quoted your “side slogan” I always thought it read “Shooting from the Tip” (understating from the tip of the pen).

I guess not knowing the idiom “Shooting from the Hip” didn’t help, either (stupid french people).

Oh, and sorry to say that I sort of agree with Chad. In my opinion, your “side slogan” takes a lot of space if it’s not meant to be part of your marketing strategy…

41 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 4:49 pm

@ Jooliah – It is a marketing strategy and a disclaimer at the same time. One, it advises people that we… well, shoot from the hip. We write and think about consequences later. Two, it fits into our overall theme of Guns for Hire, Marksmen, Straight Shooters…

42 Chad April 1, 2008 at 4:59 pm

James – I always thought you used “shooting from the hip” as a double-meaning wordplay…

…meaning more about the physical hip on a guy.

43 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 1, 2008 at 5:02 pm

Um, no. But that certainly is a… creative twist… that I’ll pass on. Thanks :)

44 Chad April 1, 2008 at 5:03 pm

Man, I guess I have a sick mind. Haha.

45 The Masked Millionaire April 1, 2008 at 6:03 pm

I think that anything that captures the reader’s attention, not in a negative way, would be a good tagline. Of course to be a great tagline it would also be easy to remember.

Live From Las Vegas
The Masked Millionaire

46 Al Kalar April 1, 2008 at 7:12 pm

1. Is Brian gone for good? (Running from the law? LOL) Or will he return when the geese return from Canada?

2. Jooliah, with all those eyes staring out of your website, how about “Here’s lookin’ at you, Kid”? (Just kidding. “Eyes” are what leaped out at me when I saw the product.)

3. Got a problem of my own. We’re starting up an ebook publishing house with a twist. Not the usual “any fool with a computer can play” site. We’ll only publish top quality stuff from new authors. The stuff that either can’t quite make the list at Random House et. al. or from talented authors who want to bypass the traditional publishing route and make more money from their books (the big houses give very small royalties and the only way to get rich is to write something that sells in the hundreds of thousands of copies).

What we need is a good tagline that will tell the shopper that “here is a site for ebooks where you don’t have to wade through the trash to find well-written stories (or non-fiction for that matter)”.

Obviously, that’s too long and I’m having a duce of a time boiling it down to something that can be read in the second or two before the visitor clicks off for greener pastures.

Any ideas gang?

47 Lisa Gates April 1, 2008 at 9:39 pm

@Joohliah, James and Chad–just be glad he didn’t call his site “Men with Pencils.” ; -)

@Brent–For some reason Brent Rinne’s comment isn’t appearing here, but here was his offer in response to “repeating” title words in tagline:

“With that in mind, but adding the idea of ascending to a new level: 360 Alliance, The personal coaching revolution.”

This gets the grey matter moving…

360 Alliance Coaching
Start a revolution from within
Changing the world from within
Changing the world from the inside out

2 more cents

48 Mark McGuinness April 2, 2008 at 2:13 am

Great post. I started out with the tagline ‘coaching creative professionals’, but it wasn’t terribly exciting – mainly because it was a classic case of a product-focused tagline.

When I realised this I thought about the benefits of my service and it seemed to boil down to inspiring people – so I changed it to ‘inspiring creative professionals’.

49 Louis Liem April 2, 2008 at 2:22 am

Hi James and others!

I don’t know if this tag represents my blog’s purpose well:
“Living the best life – ONLINE”

Mine is a blog about online earning for your living, how to get the best of it and dump the useless scams.

Any thoughts?

50 joohliah April 2, 2008 at 3:04 am

@ James – Ok, I get it now. Still not finding it very clear, though… :-S

@ Al Kalar – yeah I know this first character has loads of eyes. But they have no mouths, they HAVE to communicate in some way. The next characters won’t have that many eyes though, stay tuned ;)

@ Akemi – I like the idea of your “signature” at the end of posts. MwP and lots of other great blogs do it too.

@ Martin – Thanks for this, it makes a nice complement to James’ article :)

@ Lisa – OMG… It makes me want to redesign their current header… in a colorfull way ^^

51 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 2, 2008 at 4:42 am

@ Martin – There are many ways to pull off taglines in advertising. The problem is that most people aren’t paid advertisers who know what they’re doing.

They want to be cool. And by trying to be cool, they end up shooting themselves in the foot.

They’re also online (that’s what this blog is about, right? Online marketing?). They have 2 seconds to make an impression and convince a visitor to stay and buy.

“Imagination at work.”

Nice tagline – but in two seconds when I’m looking to buy, that does zip for me. That’ll do even less than zip for an average website, unfortunately.

I know what you’re saying, but I strongly stress that it isn’t the way to go for most business owners who will land here and read this content.

I know what you’re saying about the tagline setting the mood – that’s why we have two on our site. One to set the mood/theme, displayed discreetly, and one to tell people what the site is about, displayed prominently.

@ Al – It’s 5.30am, bear with me, but how about sticking with simple? “Quality Control for Quality Ebooks”, or something like that. (Like I said, it’s early).

@ Lisa – Well, those are nice taglines, yep. You’re shooting for clever, not clear, though, and since my post is about clear, I’ll have to say, “Why should I care if you change the world? What’s that do for me?”

Whoever said the bit about the 360 (can’t find it) is right. In my mind, 360 meant “turn around” or “circle”. It may not come off that way to others.

@ Mark – Hmm… You dropped the benefit and yet the benefit is very clear – more creative inspiration. Not easy to do; well done.

52 Maggie Chicoine April 2, 2008 at 7:27 am

Again, great reading with a cup of coffee in hand!

My primary day job is a keynote speaker, and a coach (relate to your dilemma Lisa!). I’ve been around the block a few times (getting close to going like “60″ too), and have used a number of taglines in the 20 years of being in the biz. The one that still gets a laugh (during the introduction) is “Maggie is more than a seasoned speaker…she’s marinated!”. Sets up my personality quite nicely…

I would appreciate your comments on my current website/branding tagline. Shoot from the hip if you will.

“Experience speaks…with a twist of ingenuity”

- Maggie

53 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 2, 2008 at 7:35 am

@ Maggie – I had to go visit your website to know what it is that you do or offer. Your tagline alone didn’t tell me at a glance what you do, what you give and what I get.

The same applies for many people above, I’ll note. If your tagline can’t stand on its own, it’s not very good for the web. That’s my opinion, though…

Alright. Here’s my three second still-lacking-coffee attempt:

“Ingenious coaching experience to help you get ahead.”

By the way – I LOVE your coaching page banner. Funny, cute, appealing. Makes me want to work with you. Well done on that!

54 Alan Lopuszynski April 2, 2008 at 8:54 am

Here’s a question about “clear” that I haven’t seen addressed above. Is it imperative for your tagline to expressly state Your Purpose if: 1) your company’s name accomplishes that and 2) your tagline is more often than not visually tied to your company’s name?

Example:
Smithee Oversized Beachball Company
Bigger is better for fun in the sun

That’s a dopey example, I know, but my point is this: do you actually have to abuse precious real estate in your tagline in order to restate “Oversized beachballs for fun in the sun”?

55 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 2, 2008 at 8:58 am

@ Alan – Nope. In that case, I’d go with cool over clear any day. Good question.

56 Dina Lynch Eisenberg April 2, 2008 at 9:25 am

Excellent discussion, James, and so timely, too.

When I launched my blog I wrestled with taglines for days . I blog about marriage at midlife and how to keep it fun and satisfying while living through big transitions like empty-nest syndrome and retirement.

I hit on one that really resonated with me because of its truth (based on the myriad of complaints on various forums and blogs about married life): Marriage doesn’t have to suck…Re-invent it!

I think it speaks of hope and action, two very positive things but doesn’t negate reality by being Pollyanna-ish. Some readers pushed back saying it was too negative, others love it.

So, I plan on revising it slightly so I’ll have all three elements you mention. What’s your take on this:

Middle age marriage doesn’t have to suck…Re-invigorate it!
(Mission-check, Promise-check, Brand- maybe)

Thanks for a very useful post.

Dina

57 Roberta Rosenberg April 2, 2008 at 9:51 am

@Dina … could I tweak that for you a little?

Mid-life marriage doesn’t have to suck…Re-invigorate it!
Marriage at mid-life – Refreshed, restored and juiced-up!

(or … Refresh it, Restore it, Juice it up!

I AM your market :)

58 John Hoff April 2, 2008 at 12:12 pm

@ James – just shooting around some ideas for the tagline:

“Web Business Tips for Writers, Freelancers and Online Entrepreneurs”

- Web business tips that may set fire to your blog or website

- Web business tips for the next generation of entrepreneurs

- Web business tips for starting fires & succeeding online

- Copywriters, Freelancers, & Entrepreneurs: Your pen can be mightier than mine!

….just some fun thoughts

59 Simple Mom April 2, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Wow, this is such a helpful and timely post for me. I’ve been wrestling with my tagline for several days, mostly wavering between two.

My blog provides practical tips for managing household duties for stay-at-home or work-from-home moms. Most of the info tends to gear towards moms of very little kids – 0-5 years old. Didn’t originally plan it that way, but it’s organically going that direction. Oh, and as the name implies, everything is geared towards simple things – simplifying things, keeping things simple, etc.

There are a TON of mom blogs out there, so I’m trying to decide if I should narrow it down to specifically moms of babies and preschoolers. I know I have some readers with older kids, however, so I don’t want to exclude them.

I know this is more a question of niche than tagline/branding… but it does affect my choice in tagline. I’ve been going between these two:

1. A mom wears lots of hats – let’s simplify all of them.
2. Ideas & motivation for those who spend all day with the 5 and under crowd.

My questions… which tagline sounds better? Or can you come up with another one? And, should I narrow my niche to moms of littles?

60 Jamie Simmerman April 2, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Okay, so I’m a little late, but I’ve been writing my arse off here this week! :)

I have been trying to incorporate James’ concept of taglines into my SEO content for clients lately and all I can say is it gets better with practice.

For Joohliah, I checked out your website and what I thought of was “Miles of Smiles with Every Hug” or “Comfort and Cheer for Every Age”. Those may suck, I’m not sure yet. I’m sure James will give them the shredding they deserve if so.

61 Jamie Simmerman April 2, 2008 at 12:48 pm

@Simple Mom, I like ” Wearing Many Hats and Looking Great with Peanut Butter in Your Hair” :D

62 Simple Mom April 2, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Thanks, Jamie. My concern is that it sounds like I provide beauty or fashion tips!

I cover organizing, menu planning, managing family finances, frugal and/or green living, and making your home a haven.

63 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 2, 2008 at 1:11 pm

@ Simple Mom – Simple Tips to Help Moms Stay Sane :)

@ John – Keep workin’ at it, but great suggestions so far. Tough one, eh?

@ Jamie – Practice always makes us better. I still practice !

64 Jamie Simmerman April 2, 2008 at 1:14 pm

@ Simple, How about “Simply Terrific Home Management Tips to Keep You Sane”?

(Gotta go pick up my insanity at school in a just a few minutes!)

65 Maggie Chicoine April 2, 2008 at 1:14 pm

@ Simple Mom… “Simply Mom-Ease” (say it out loud…get it?). Ok, too cute, not clear enough! Had to post:)

66 Jamie Simmerman April 2, 2008 at 1:15 pm

LOL, no fair! We were typing at the same time James! :D I guess you have rubbed off on me more than I know!

67 Simple Mom April 2, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Hmm… interesting ideas, all. I’m just thinking I need something to set me apart from the myriad of mom blogs out there, all which claim to have advice or tips. Hmm… I’m still thinking…

Thanks for the ideas.

68 Roberta Rosenberg April 2, 2008 at 1:30 pm

@ Simple Mom – what sets you apart is your focus on moms with kidlets under age 5. You want to get some of that into your tag.

Live simple, live sane with teeny tots underfoot

69 Janice C Cartier April 2, 2008 at 1:57 pm

@simple mom-there’s an old saw. “Kiss It”..keep it simple stupid. I prefer silly in place of stupid. But it is seems to apply just like helping “boo boo ’s go away: “Kisses that keep Simple Moms sane.” Not a wordsmith so you guys can play with it. But it is an easy mantra to hang to.

@ all the Web tips, on line marketing, copywriting names and tags have become so commonplace a fresh vocabulary and visual image is really what is lacking, the next generation of connotation- People are searching for a haven of solid actionable info… I would like to find a ProWriters Oasis to quench my thirst while working the Silk Road 2.0
Again not a wordsmith, but describe the elephant from another view.
Acceptance of the medium is done. Think a little ahead of the curve. Don’t confuse the medium with the message or think it is the message. Superlative skills customized to fit the venue. Sell those skills. Not the internet. Somebody, actually lots of somebodies, already did that. So we need words that get beyond a bit and offer up the connotation of mastery, agility, responsiveness, and substance in a virtual venue…simple, huh? Not at all. But stand at the crossroads and push it a little further. Play us a little different riff.
Just a few thoughts.

70 Simple Mom April 2, 2008 at 2:14 pm

@Roberta – I really like it! Maybe a variation, like “Live simply, stay sane – homemaking inspiration for moms of littles.”

Does ‘homemaking’ sound too 1950s Betty Crocker-ish? Home management sounds kinda boring, housekeeping sounds too much about cleaning/cooking.

I don’t mean to hijack this thread or anything – but this is really helping me!

71 Roberta Rosenberg April 2, 2008 at 2:38 pm

@ Simple Mom

I do think homemaking sounds old-fashioned but maybe that’s ok.

“Live simply, stay sane – relief and inspiration for moms with tots.”

72 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 2, 2008 at 2:41 pm

@ Roberta – Even though it’s not gramatically correct, I’d go for “Live simple, stay sane – blah blah”

That was a good one. I like that one. You have my vote.

73 Roberta Rosenberg April 2, 2008 at 2:47 pm

Yeah, I like the off-grammar one better myself. It’s a little stronger, more emphatic. (My 2 youngest kids are 15 months apart in age. I get the critical importance of simple AND sane!) :)

74 Simple Mom April 2, 2008 at 3:00 pm

@Roberta – Good one! I think you may have sold me. I guess the grammar nerd in me was going for the adverb vs. the adjective, but I totally get the punch with “live simple.”

Thanks, all! Off to do housewifey things… ;-)

75 Dina Lynch Eisenberg April 2, 2008 at 3:39 pm

@ Roberta I LOVE it, although I’m sad to stop saying suck…forever the rebellious girl, I guess.

And, my kids are 15 months apart, too- OY!

76 Roberta Rosenberg April 2, 2008 at 3:51 pm

@ Simple Mom … if it works for you, it works for me.
@ Dina … well, you don’t have to stop ** saying ** it. I like the juxtaposition of mid-life and juicy. It makes me feel hopeful :)

77 Dina Lynch Eisenberg April 2, 2008 at 4:02 pm

@ Roberta- Hope is my life’s work in a way so thanks. Juicy…perfect word to describe the next phase of life and it matches my logo– you’re a genius!

78 joohliah April 2, 2008 at 4:23 pm

@ Jamie – Thanks so much for taking time to help me !
About the taglines you suggested… I fear they might be a little too “Hallmarky” as said Sonia in the first comments. I have to give it some thought, but even if it doesn’t show with these first characters, there’s definitely something more than cuteness in my universe. Some of my characters are wicked, others are funny. Most are cute, but not all of them. And I don’t want to loose that diversity as it reflects the way I see the world…

Time for sleep here in Paris, maybe night will bring me some answers :)

79 Addy Coleman April 2, 2008 at 6:56 pm

“Benefits are the key to better copy, better sales and better business online.” Very wise words, James. I enjoyed this article.

80 The Crazy Colombian April 2, 2008 at 8:25 pm

What an incredible post!! I thought I’d ask for some advice on one of my web sites/blogs: Pass It Forward (pifaustralia.org)

“Pass It Forward” is a kindness movement, created with the goal of inspiring 1 million people to do a Random Act of Kindness they otherwise would not have done.

Our tagline: “Pass It Forward – Changing the world with Random Acts of kindness”

Suggestions?

81 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 2, 2008 at 8:32 pm

@ Crazy – Actually, you’re pretty close to good to go with that. Let’s see…

Change the World for the Better with one Act of Kindness

A little long, but it has the action, the result and the how -to.

Cool about the “pass it forward”, by the way. I posted one of those on my blog awhile back.

82 Lisa Gates April 2, 2008 at 9:41 pm

James et al, just want to say a huge thanks for the education these past couple of days — standard fare at Copyblogger. We brainstormed as a group, riffing off all the suggestions here and came up with another possibility. I know how you dislike cute…

360 Alliance
Coaching that creates a revolution in your evolution

@Crazy, interesting how ideas circulate in packs…we do something similar on our site called Pay it Forward Friday–free sessions in trade for a contribution to an org we highlight every month. Good stuff.

83 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 3, 2008 at 5:09 am

@ Lisa – Now that’s funny!

“The topic of our discussion at this meeting today is James…” hehehe I like.

I think your action verbs need to be more direct and authoritative.

“Coaching to create revolution in your evolution.”
“Coaching for revolution in your evolution.”
“Revolutionize your evolution with coaching that counts.”

Don’t go for cute. Go for expert. Go for firm. Your coaching DOES do this. Firm. Not cutesy :)

Where’s Roberta when I need her?

84 Roberta Rosenberg April 3, 2008 at 6:28 am

@ Lisa, James

Okay, here are my tweaks …

Coaching that puts revolution in your evolution

Our coaching puts revolution in your evolution
Because you’re ready (or – it’s time) to put some (or a little or a bit of) revolution in your evolution

85 Maggie Chicoine April 3, 2008 at 6:36 am

@Roberta for Lisa: “Because it’s time to put a bit of revolution in your evolution” really rocks!

86 Roberta Rosenberg April 3, 2008 at 6:39 am

@Maggie – thanks! So let’s see what Lisa says. :)

87 Lisa Gates April 3, 2008 at 9:21 am

@James, it’s good to start with the red pen from you cuz you take the bs out.

@Roberta, you put the urgency in it. Love that to pieces. It’s a keeper.

@Maggie, thank you for the cheerleading. I want to be you when I grow young.

Who do you want the check made out to?

88 Roberta Rosenberg April 3, 2008 at 9:37 am

@ Lisa … one more variation before I go get some lowlights in my hair.

“Because it’s time to launch the revolution in your evolution”
“Because it’s time you launched the revolution in your evolution.”

If you’re serious about the check, how about a gift to Heifer? Here’s the link: http://www.heifer.org/myregistry/mgpdirect

That way we all win :)

89 Santa Barbara Real Estate Voice April 3, 2008 at 11:53 am

Good tips…but now it needs to stick and that is very tough. Very few tag lines in this world work unless you have the $$$ to back it with lots of exposure…that is a reality. The only tag lines people know are from the major coporations of the world….If I am wrong I would like to know some other examples.

90 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 3, 2008 at 12:21 pm

I disagree. Exposure and driving the message home matters, yes. However in the virtual world, when a glance matters, a glance at a good tagline means the reader may stay longer on the site or even take action.

Does he remember that tagline? Nope. Does it even matter? Of course not. By now, the customer has had a positive experience (hopefully). He’s either bought something (yay!) or his loyalty has increased. He’ll remember the positive experience over the tagline…

And that’s what matters most :)

91 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 3, 2008 at 12:35 pm

I like shorter versus longer.

“It’s time to launch the revolution in your evolution.”

Or even better:

“Launch the Revolution in Your Evolution.”

92 Lisa Gates April 3, 2008 at 12:48 pm

@Roberta, you’re on. Heifer has been on our list for a couple of months. We’ll dedicate the month to it.

93 Lisa Gates April 3, 2008 at 12:54 pm

@James, Roberta: interesting juxtaposition you two make. James creates impact with strength and precision, Roberta creates impact with a drilled down, intuitive, personal edge.

:-)

94 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 3, 2008 at 1:03 pm

@ Roberta – Cool about Heifer and well done on that. I’ll start recommending it too.

@ Lisa – Now that is interesting, and I never looked at it that way. Hmm… so we make a good team, eh? ;)

95 Janice C Cartier April 3, 2008 at 1:05 pm

@lisa-wow, you nailed them beautifully…great to see them in action and interesting to see an effective collaboration. good luck with your alliance.

96 Al Kalar April 3, 2008 at 1:18 pm

@James. Sorry for not getting back until now, but Wednesday was totally ugly.

[It’s 5.30am, bear with me, but how about sticking with simple? “Quality Control for Quality Ebooks”, or something like that. (Like I said, it’s early).]

Pretty good for O-dark thirty! The only thing I can do at that hour is go to the bathroom and back to bed.

Any more thoughts since then?

What a talented group! I’m blown away by the creativity on just this one topic.

97 Maria Reyes-McDavis April 3, 2008 at 1:47 pm

Great, great post. Many people miss the importance of a good tagline as part of their branding and marketing strategy!

Great tips!

Maria :-)

98 Roberta Rosenberg April 3, 2008 at 2:57 pm

@ James, Lisa, and Janice:

This kind of fun should be completely illegal!

James, my father always said NO PARTNERS, but for you I might make an exception.
Lisa, can I use your comment on my site?
Janice, I’m glad you enjoyed watching James and my creative process. I enjoyed playing and watching myself.

99 Dina Lynch Eisenberg April 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm

@ Roberta- given how well you guys click and the powerful compliments you’ve both gotten hear, you might consider taking the leap!

Roberta captured the spirit, intent and joy of my work immediately with just a few very compelling words. With her guidance & imagination, my tagline went from ho-hum to a perfectly-targeted attention grabber in 30 seconds flat!

If this suits you I hope you’ll use it, Roberta; I’m now one of your biggest fans!

100 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 3, 2008 at 3:54 pm

@ Al – Ah, but you’re supposed to get your creative juices flowing! What thoughts did you have? Shoot.

@ Roberta – We’ll take over the blogosphere with creative taglines that work! ;)

@ Dina – HEY!

101 Janice C Cartier April 3, 2008 at 4:02 pm

@Roberta, Lisa, and okay James too- way too much fun and an excellent example of why fine writing, agile writing, and responsive writing JAMES, is NOT a trade. It is an art. Way to go. Thanks for letting us watch.

102 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 3, 2008 at 4:05 pm

@ Janice – Ahhh, you… How about creatively artistic versus art? ;)

103 Janice C Cartier April 3, 2008 at 4:15 pm

Nope. Full on fine art. Live with it.

104 Al Kalar April 3, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Okay James, how about:

“Quality books from talented authors”???

We’re using that now, but I’ve looked at it too long and it’s beginning to lose it’s luster. Familiarity = contempt?

105 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 3, 2008 at 8:05 pm

@ Al – You have a tough one, I’ll admit. One, all writers think they’re talented. All readers figure that if a writer has an ebook, the author is talented. So to me, talent goes without say. It doesn’t stand out.

But if you protect and screen for quality, that says something about your business credibility. People can trust that your ebooks aren’t garbage, right?

Of course, “Quality you can trust” has been done. Nothing new there. Hm.

It depends whether you want to push that you screen for quality or that you offer tons of great ebooks. What’s your business stance?

(Yes, even I get stumped. But the questions are good ones to think over!)

106 Beth Robinson April 4, 2008 at 9:26 am

How about “ebooks worth quoting” or “ebooks worth your notice”, or something in that vein?

Why do people want quality after all? So it’s worth their time, so they can get something good from it, so they can tell others about it and get their approval of how smart the original reader is, and …

It should be possible to get more concrete than the nebulous notion of quality.

107 Al Kalar April 4, 2008 at 11:09 am

@James
The current state of the ebook market falls into 2 camps:

1. Web sites that sell electronic versions of the stuff you see in Barnes & Nobel and the supermarket racks.

2. Sites that handle any book a “wanna be writer” uploads. A lot of this stuff is quite frankly trash by authors who only “think” they are “talented”. There are some pearls in this mud, but customers have to sift through a lot of hype and mud to find them.

Amazon is a special case that combines both styles and adds one of their own (they cater to their own e-reader, the Kindle).

There are authors who write really good stuff, but for one reason or another can’t get published by the big publishing houses. The reasons would take more space than this format offers and would bore most of you to death. These are the books we are going to offer. New, well-written, and unpublished (at least in “e” format).

We’ve created a publishing house and screening process that will offer ebooks that are at least as well-written as the stuff you see on the shelves; and in some cases “better” written.

@Beth
Good thoughts. “Quality” is an overworked word these days. It’s what we offer, but how do we make it “more concrete”? And in just a very few words? A pretty problem.

108 Janice Cartier April 4, 2008 at 11:39 am

@Al Kalar- you may have to demonstrate “quality” one ebook at a time. By showing the strength of your offerings as you offer them individually you will establish yourself as purveyors of “the finest offerings from exceptional authors” now in ebook format. You could even offer podcasts of reading samples, read of course by exceptional voices. Teach people what you cherish in a well written book, or what each offering has in it of value. If you offer useful value , people will come back . Quality becomes an inherent part of the experience. Your actions will speak for themselves.
Just some thoughts.
All best, Jan

109 Al Kalar April 4, 2008 at 2:19 pm

@Janice
Wow! You are a marketing dynamo. I think you hit a home run.

Don’t know if we’re ready to Podcast. I haven’t a clue how to go about it, not how much work is involved. I can find the voices (heck, I have a good baritone and a background in interpretive reading).

I agree that if someone reads a good book, they’ll be back. That’s how authors develop a following in any media. There are people who will buy a Steven King book without even looking at the back cover or watch a movie based on one of his books without seeing the trailers.

110 Janice C Cartier April 4, 2008 at 3:49 pm

@ Al Kalar- Glad my thoughts were useful to you. I sense your enthusiasm. Good luck. Jan

111 David Godot April 4, 2008 at 4:04 pm

Wow, I’m late to the party. It looks like I’m not the only one whose struggled with his tagline.

I’ve tweaked my tagline 3-4 times already; it’s definitely getting closer, but I don’t think it’s quite there yet.

My blog is about explaining the psychology behind things that web-savvy types deal with. So I’m offering people a better sense of understanding and mastery over their social and internal worlds. Also, I’m hoping to attract questions from my readers that I can answer and work with on the blog, making it a very community-driven thing where I can give people exactly what they ask for, rather than just what I think they need.

Ideally, my name will be in the tagline, because what I’m actually doing is building myself as a brand for services that I will be offering 3 years in the future, after I’ve got my license to practice. All I’ve managed to come up with so far is:
“David Godot Answers Your Questions about Psychology, Health, and Personal Development”

Not very compelling, I’m afraid. But something like “David Godot gives you exactly what you ask for,” while fun, doesn’t really tell anybody anything.

Maybe: “David Godot helps you master your universe”? Too narcissistic, I expect. “David Godot helps you understand your life”?

Humbug. What a difficult exercise!

112 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 4, 2008 at 4:26 pm

@ David – “Personal Coaching so You can Understand your Brain and Master your World.” What do you think? Not sure if personal coaching is your game, but it may get something started.

@ Al – Janice hit on something and I’ll use that in a tagline suggestion: “Ebooks from Exceptional Authors for Affordable Reading”. She’s right and you’re right – quality is overdone.

Just wanted to let everyone know we’ve got something regular coming up based on the popularity of this thread… stay tuned!

113 Janice C Cartier April 4, 2008 at 4:44 pm

@ Davis- Okay granted it is Friday and just about cocktail time, but David…are you kidding? “Answers from Godot”

En Attendent Godot….am I the only one?
Jan

114 Janice C Cartier April 4, 2008 at 4:48 pm

Oops David, not Davis.

115 David Godot April 4, 2008 at 4:54 pm

Ah, thanks for your feedback, James! Due to ethical concerns in my profession (psychology is a nervous, jittery profession with lots of weird regulations), I don’t want to imply that I’m offering any actual services. But, I think I’m getting closer now. Maybe something like:

David Godot explains how to understand your world and master your mind

116 David Godot April 4, 2008 at 4:55 pm

@Janice Haha that’s actually a pretty fun idea. You think it gives people enough reason to be interested and get involved?

117 Jamie Simmerman April 4, 2008 at 4:57 pm

David’s suggestion brings up a good question. Should you use your name in a tagline? This ties in to James’ recent post on branding as well. James?

118 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 4, 2008 at 4:58 pm

@ David – For a tagline for an online business, I personally would leave your name out. You need something very fast, and they should already know you’re David Godot – or they’ll discover it on your websites or blog.

Alternatively, try this: Godot’s take on understanding your world to master your mind

?

119 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 4, 2008 at 4:59 pm

@ Jamie – Depends on what you’re trying to brand – you, or your business, or both?

But my take is that unless a client’s benefit is YOU or access to you, leave it off. That’s just my opinion, though.

120 David Godot April 4, 2008 at 5:03 pm

@James You do make a good point. And the blog is called “Way To Go, Godot!” so I can probably skip the name. Maybe even just “To understand your world and master your mind.”

121 Jamie Simmerman April 4, 2008 at 5:07 pm

@David, how about “Insight and Experience for Relevant Living”

122 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 4, 2008 at 5:08 pm

@ David – Three elements, Dave. Three. Promise, Mission, Benefit. Don’t start dropping those.

At the very least, put “tips to” or “thoughts to help” before the “understand your world” part :)

123 David Godot April 4, 2008 at 5:13 pm

@James Psychological answers that leave you feeling refreshed :)

124 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 4, 2008 at 5:20 pm

@ David – Straight answers to master your mind fast.

125 David Godot April 4, 2008 at 5:22 pm

@James How’d you do that? ;)

126 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 4, 2008 at 5:26 pm

@ David – I would usually answer this with my standard, “What? What’d I do NOW?” but I assume you mean that as a compliment so I’ll say…

Magic. ;)

127 Janice C Cartier April 4, 2008 at 5:34 pm

David-your profession finds ways to help people deal with the human condition. Look at your ideal clients…does it work for them? How cool would that be? And fun. It is a “story instantly communicated”. Conceptual positioning and that little something extra just as James said in the original post, IMHO. You have to let me know. It makes me smile. Jan

128 Al Kalar April 5, 2008 at 7:06 pm

@Thanks James
You and Janice make a good team!

That gives me two “exceptional” ideas to run past management.

I’ve not seen many posts that incited as much comment as this subject. Everyone seems to have a “too close to the problem” viewpoint and having a “forum” such as this has worked out great for me and many others.

129 Julia April 6, 2008 at 12:34 pm

Taglines are always such a pain to come up with (IMO), so I like that this post & all the comments have provided a lot of good ideas & suggestions. Being able to come up with good ones may start off as a skill, but then ends up being an art, that’s for sure.

On that note, I wanted to toss my new one out there for comments…

I’m just starting up my freelance writing business, which I’m hoping to turn into a full-time gig. I am a technical writer by trade, and will probably start with more of those types of projects, however I do want to branch out into different kinds of writing as well. For the time being though, I was thinking of this for the tagline:

Technically writing, officially freelance.

(BTW, the link to my site may not work just yet, as I’m still working on the site. Keep trying, as it’ll eventually get live.)

130 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 7, 2008 at 5:30 am

@ Julia – I know that freelance writing has high competition online, so make sure to really target your niche like Robin Hood shooting his arrow. The fact you’re in technical writing helps :)

If you’re going to work online, you can’t really afford clever. You have seconds to compel a client, and if you’re for hire, you’re freelancing, so that’s wasted words. It’s a fun tagline, but it won’t help you.

What’s your promise? Accuracy? Systematic instructions? What are the benefits of hiring you over the next technical writer? Why should someone choose you? Grab that from the start. Put it out there clearly.

131 Julia April 7, 2008 at 4:48 pm

Aw jeez, I spent a whole hour thinking up that tagline! ;-) But you bring up some good points that I’ll definitely think about this week while I finish up the site.

Thanks!

132 Juli Korneychuk April 7, 2008 at 5:41 pm

It has been fantastic watching the mental gymnastics going on! Hoping a few of you can toss me some ideas. Need to come up with a tag line that conveys “cost-effective, customized CRM for AS/400 with first class customer service.” That’s what I came up with from James article but don’t know how to get from that to something shorter and more memorable.

133 Roberta Rosenberg April 7, 2008 at 6:15 pm

@Juli – a ton of your competitors could probably say the same thing about themselves. So what can you say about your company that the others can’t say about themselves- and what one point is the most important? That’s the point to lead with.

134 Jamie Simmerman April 7, 2008 at 6:46 pm

@Juli, What would you say you have to offer your clients that your competition doesn’t? You have to determine what benefits you have to offer the customer.

“Cost-effective” doesn’t draw me in as a potential customer. It helps to put yourself in the customer’s shoes. :)

135 Al Kalar April 7, 2008 at 8:58 pm

@Janice said: “the finest offerings from exceptional authors”
@James said: “Ebooks from Exceptional Authors for Affordable Reading”

After mulling it over for a few days, I boiled it further down to:
“Affordable Ebooks from Exceptional Authors”
or
“The Finest Ebooks from Exceptional Authors”.

Opinions?

@Jamie, you’re right “cost-effective” is much too weak. And based upon a recent post, you might not want to be seen as “cheap”. If your customer is that worried about price, you probably don’t want to fuss with him anyway.

IMHO Go after the customer who needs a writer who can GET THE JOB DONE without a lot of hand holding or mistakes. If you have a very strong field in your tool belt, you might want to feature that as a target. The technical writer who goes after everything is probably too weak to do a good job, say, in the medical field.

Instead of competing with everybody and his grandmother, carve out a profitable niche as your own and dominate it. Then go after another if you have the time.

So, for now, you might want to run a tag line that mentions your specialty such as “User Friendly Program Documentation” and beat out the clods who put out incomprehensible user manuals.

Or whatever you want to target.

136 Juli Korneychuk April 8, 2008 at 6:04 pm

Thanks for the advice everyone. “Cost-effective” is too weak but we come out cheaper than competitors on 5-yr ownership period. Our niche is that we’re the only CRM product on a niche server platform. It’s very customizable but our major competitors are 800-pound gorrillas, Microsoft CRM and Salesforce.com. As a small company, we can’t afford to meet them head-on in advertising blitz. If we can reach the users on the niche server platform, they’re usually pretty excited about the product but we’re feeling the down-turn in the economy, too. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

137 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 9, 2008 at 7:31 am

@ Al – I had the idea this morning that somehow, there’s a way to work in “From Bookshelf to Ebook” to convey that we’re not talking “cheap” ebooks. We’re talking good enough to be on a bookshelf.

“Affordable ebooks” makes me think of cheap, unfortunately, but that might just be me.

How about “Bookshelf Authors. Ebook Format. Affordable Reading.” ?

@ Julie – Customized CRM for Small Business on a Budget

Cheers, everyone. It’s been great participating in this – stay tuned for next month’s Tagline Tag Team when Roberta and I come back for more fun!

138 Roberta Rosenberg April 9, 2008 at 7:35 am

With James, every day is a party :) … Hope you’ll join us for another round of tagline fun and frolic!

139 Janice C Cartier April 9, 2008 at 8:58 am

@Al- Thanks Al. looking back at your original position there is no mention of “affordable”. Your primary position is that you want to underscore the quality you are publishing in this format. Is your ideal client looking for an “exceptional” read in a convenient downloadable format, or it that client wanting to save money?
It’s a “virtual bookshelf you can be proud of” , “fine offerings from exceptional authors in ebook format”, and yes they are affordable. What satisfies that search that brings the client to you in particular? What do you want that client to repeat to others that brings them to you as well? I wish you much luck and great adventures.
@Roberta and James- thanks for the pleasure, good party.

140 Al Kalar April 15, 2008 at 12:35 pm

Sorry to be gone so long. Tax time.

What a creative group! This one post gets better and better every day.

@Juli: You might try to form some alliances. For instance, Worksmart by Pan Terra is a premier VoIP phone system that currently only interfaces with Salesforce. You might approach them to design an interface to your product. Yes, I know this has nothing to do with a tag line, but it would definitely expand your market. There are other opportunities you might want to chase as well.

@James: “Bookshelf Authors. Ebook Format. Affordable Reading.” Interesting tag. Not entirely true because our authors are mostly not currently on the bookshelf because of a number of roadblocks that have nothing to do with their talent and the quality of their manuscripts.

@Janice: Good feedback. Yes, our market covers several “wants”. New exiting authors with fresh stories as well as prices more in line with what mass paperbacks used to cost. Same thing for the non-fiction market. We hope to attract textbook authors so the students can get the books they’re required to have at a price they can afford (in fact students are mostly all asking for “electronic” texts).

141 Al Kalar April 15, 2008 at 12:50 pm

@James. Dumb question. What’s with the reply posts that just quote part of your original article? Is this a good thing or just raiders who are trying to get their back link? And if so, why don’t you delete them for bad manners?

Sorry for being so dense. I don’t have a blog of my own, but I’ve often wondered about these anomalies in blogs I’ve visited.

142 Janice C Cartier April 15, 2008 at 12:58 pm

@Al Kalar- Thanks. Just some thoughts. :)

143 Juli Korneychuk April 15, 2008 at 5:14 pm

@Al Kalar – thanks for your idea, we’re actually working on Skype integration now. Maybe others will follow. I whole-heartedly endorse forming alliances. Unfortunately, company policy is to only develop new product features – including integrations – when requested by customers or the final road block to closing a sale. Our small company would go broke developing features on speculation. I’d love to have a few more automated marketing alliances… But I take your point and I’m pushing further integration with Skype so I can promote the heck out of it.

144 Juli Korneychuk April 15, 2008 at 6:17 pm

@Al Kalar – First, thanks for your insight, if you get textbook authors for college texts on your site please let me know, I’ll have two in college starting in the fall!

145 Al Kalar April 15, 2008 at 7:48 pm

@Juli: Skype isn’t where businesses go for top quality VoIP phone systems. You’ll get some SOHO business, but not larger outfits. Worksmart is one of the “biggies” in the hosted business arena (I use their service and sell it as well for my regular employer). SalesForce has sold a lot of seats because of their alliance with Worksmart (and conversely).

I’d be glad to let you know about textbooks. If I send an email to your “contact” address on your website, will it reach you? This isn’t really the place to discuss it. You can reply to our “contact” page and it will reach me.

146 Stewart Mader April 16, 2008 at 4:36 pm

Wow, what an excellent post – and the conversation is even better!

My blog is about helping people use wikis (websites you can edit) to improve communication, collaboration, and information sharing at work.

Here are a couple of taglines:

ignite collaboration for business success
collaboration tips to improve work success
collaboration tips for business success

Thoughts?

147 Jamie Simmerman April 16, 2008 at 5:41 pm

@Stewart: I see where you are going with it. I like the ” Collaboration Tips for Business Success” one, but the word collaboration seems to hang me up. Maybe, “Working together for your business success”

I am not the best one to give advice in this area. Maybe James will pop in with a terrific suggestion for you.

148 Faina Sechzer April 26, 2008 at 8:25 pm

This post has so many creative ideas. I am stuck on my tag line. My blog is about helping people be smarter real estate consumers, which in turn will help them sell/buy their homes in a slow market. I offer analysis of the local market and tips for home buying and selling.
I have trouble separating the benefit of the blog from the benefit of using me as the real estate agent. My ideas:
Tips for success for home buyers and sellers
Inside scoop for home buyers and sellers
Learn what real estate agents know

Am I too late for help with better suggestions?

149 Theresa April 27, 2008 at 7:55 pm

Faina, I’ll chime in. As a consumer, the last one is most appealing. I would be drawn to something that is relevant to what I’m feeling today – tips on how to sell my house in a down market.

So something along the lines of “learn to think like an agent” or “inside the mind of the market” or something that gives the feeling of me getting insider info from an expert.

You had a good start, I might just combine a few of those ideas.

150 James Chartrand - Men with Pens April 27, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Tips for selling fast in a slow market
Fast-sell tips for slow real estate markets

:)

151 Faina Sechzer April 28, 2008 at 10:29 am

@Teresa, thanks. You got the idea of what I am trying to say. Couple more things: the blog is not just for sellers, but for buyers as well. The tag line should apply, when the market turns. Now I write about “bad” market. The blog is for “any” market.
@James. Like your #2. Again, the tag line should be for both for buyers and sellers, and should be applicable when the market gets better.
I am educating and providing information for the consumers they can’t get anywhere else: analysis of market data and what I see as an agent every day.
Something along the lines “Inside Real Estate Agent’s Head”
“Insider’s scoop on real estate”
“Buy and sell like a RE agent”
“Learn Real Estate from the Pro”
Another challenge: using words “real estate” and “Princeton” (which is what my market is) makes the tag line long and boring. You guys are great. Any other great iseas?
BTW, James, I love your blog – have been a subscriber for some time.

152 Roberta Rosenberg April 28, 2008 at 10:40 am

- Profitable Insider Tips, No Matter What the Market
- Every Market is a Good Market with the Right Info
- Insider Secrets to Profit Opportunities in Princeton Real Estate

153 Faina Sechzer April 28, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Roberta, thank you. You are the pro:) I like #1 the most. #2- I like, but am hesitant about words “good market” and “profitable”. It won’t apply to people losing money now (may be less with my advice, but still losing). I am extra careful in my blog to call it as I see it, and “profitable” may, unfortunately, not apply to every case.
Insider Tips For Any RE Market
Insider Secrets To Home Buying & Selling
Insider Tips For Smart Home Buyers and Sellers
Tips For Being A Smarter Home Buyer & Seller
Is it OK to abbreviate “RE” in the tag line? Am I getting closer?:)

154 Roberta Rosenberg April 28, 2008 at 3:51 pm

A few more to chew on…

Insider Smarts for Smart Real Estate Buyers & Sellers
Smart, No BS Tips for Savvy Real Estate Buyers & Sellers
Buying & Selling Real Estate Smarts for Every Market

And no, I wouldn’t abbreviate.

155 Dey May 2, 2008 at 9:39 am

what about two line taglines? Too long? too bad?
i.e.
Go local and dance with the world as it is!
Live one week BEING PART of a local community somewhere…

156 Jeanne May May 3, 2008 at 2:10 am

That was a highly entertaining and downright informative article… I got many ideas on how to look at my tagline and oomph it up!
Thanks a million
Jeanne

157 Anne Moss May 3, 2008 at 11:09 pm

I think this makes it very clear how to write a tagline. I, too, preach “make it clear if you can’t make it clever”. Most people should be able to do that if they back away. But so often when people do write a tagline they go to cliche. I say avoid that trap 99% of the time.

158 Clare June 25, 2008 at 5:19 pm

Great blog there, well written and researched!

159 Theresa June 29, 2008 at 8:54 pm

Hi I love the thought processes here… I am new to this site as I am starting a web design – I know a lot of competition and realise I need to understand more on taglines. I have a picture of a person holding a website in their hand and I am targeting the small business. I am trully stuck on a tagline… I am wanting to suggest how visually a website can attract customers but am coming up blank, any suggestions?
Thanks – getting started sometimes can be hard.

160 John Hawbaker July 9, 2008 at 11:55 am

I found this post via Twitter and couldn’t help but laugh. I just helped start a local news/opinion blog for Chattanooga, and our tagline does not follow your rules. That said, I believe it supports the brand we’re trying to create:

Chattarati – Communal narcissism for the scenic city

161 Lipton of Starfeeder July 9, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Hi everyone, I found this post through a link on Brian’s RSS feed and thought I could ask for some help in brain storming up a tagline for my blog :)

My blog is about StarCraft 2 (a game that isn’t released yet, but will be one of the most popular games ever)

My Missions:
Spreading news about StarCraft 2
Being a resource for everything StarCraft 2
Teach you how to be a better StarCraft 2 gamer

Benefits for the readers:
Get the latest on StarCraft 2
Learn more about StarCraft 2
Get better at StarCraft 2

Any suggestions would be appreciated :D thanks!

162 Jennifer Cote July 9, 2008 at 11:34 pm

Whoa- lots of great comments! Had to laugh though. About comment #15 (PenIsland.com, etc.)… I just saw a website: parentingskills.com
I saw: parenting kills…
What great input from everyone!

163 Geek's Dream Girl July 10, 2008 at 8:23 am

Jennifer – Parenting does kill! ;-)

If anybody would like to help me find a new tagline, I have a post about it on my blog where I’m collecting ideas. Or you can post ‘em here. Either way :-)

164 Christine Wach July 10, 2008 at 9:46 am

Hi everyone,

I am just in the initial phases of start -up for my website. It is a site focused on getting started in careers in show business- specifically the acting business. The goal is to expand to it be the ‘go to’ online Career Centre for people pursuing careers in the arts.

the site is: glowcareers.com

and the tag line is: where work is play.

I really like it, but now I am wondering if it is too ‘clever’ and does not highlight the benefits enough??

I would love any feedback! Thanks!
Christine

165 Al Kalar July 10, 2008 at 11:46 am

@Christine

‘So, you wanna be a star?’
‘treading the boards’ (might be too obscure for non-actors)
‘Getting paid for showing off’
‘let’s pretend’
‘How to get into acting’
‘Get started as an actor’
‘Your acting career’

Just a few ideas to get your brain going.

166 Christine Wach July 10, 2008 at 3:02 pm

Thanks Al.

Those are good- somehow they seem almost too strait forward. But maybe I am overthinking this.

I also like- “making your dreams reality”.

167 Al Kalar July 10, 2008 at 4:47 pm

@Christine
Two things go into making a good “tagline”.
1. Tells the new visitor he’s at the right place (summarizes your site)
2. Memorable (”melts in your mouth, not in your hand” as an example).

So, avoid “cutesy” stuff and don’t be bothered by something that’s straightforward.

You might remember that you’re selling a dream.

Hmmmm . “Dare to dream” ???

168 christine wach July 10, 2008 at 8:02 pm

Thanks Al–I am getting it…

Yes, I am selling a dream–the benefit of this site is that it actually featuring real advice from working artists on being a working actor as well as resources on how to get an agent, auditioning, and will feature write ups on acting schools and a directory etc.

Most current sites seem to have very ‘lite’ content.

I think my ‘edge’ is that I have worked as a professional actor so I understand the business. I changed careers a few years ago and now work as a career counselor/ trainer.

So the site is drawing on my experience in both worlds.

Maybe it is something like:
Your guide to becoming a professional working actor
( too long? –unmemorable)
Making it work in the performing Arts
How to work as a professional actor
Creating the career of your dreams

Tips to create your dream career
Career Advice for dreamers
Making your career dreams a reality
Real world advice for creating the career of your dreams

Career advice for dreamers???

This stands out as one of the better ones.
I still like –where work is play—maybe I can use this somewhere else.

Thank you a million times. I love this site- what a great
‘clinic’. I have learned a lot here.

Christine

169 christine wach July 10, 2008 at 8:26 pm

One more–Making it work in Show biz

170 Al Kalar July 10, 2008 at 10:00 pm

@Christine

171 Al Kalar July 10, 2008 at 10:02 pm

@Christine
Let’s try that one again without the @#$%

“Advice from the pros”
“Your acting career. Advice from the pros.”
whatever.

172 Christine Wach July 11, 2008 at 8:07 am

Thanks–I like- Your Acting Career Advice from the pros………

173 Steve Zugelter July 25, 2008 at 12:38 pm

So I just found this site and just in time. I’m in need of some help creating a catchy tagline for my video production biz that specializes in cinematic style wedding films. A peer of mine has digital storytelling. I really dig that but obviously cannot use that. Any thoughts?

174 Al Kalar July 25, 2008 at 1:28 pm

@Steve “Turn your wedding into a blockbuster film”
“Put your wedding on the big screen”
“Your wedding – the movie”

175 Dustin November 12, 2008 at 12:11 am

I am a business student at UMass Lowell and for one of my assignments we have to create a website for ourselves to give to potential employers. We have to create a tagline for ourselves to put on the site. So i thought about it and I bring hard work and the fact that i will go all out to get things done. Here are some taglines i have come up with:
-I will get things done
-getting things done
-all out to get things done
-all in to get things complete
-getting things complete

any advice or feedback would be great. Thanks!

176 al Kalar November 20, 2008 at 11:28 am

@Dustin
You could steal from Einstein (or was in Edison?):
“Ten percent inspiration. Ninety percent perspiration”

“Goal oriented”

“All the persistence of the law of gravity”

177 Carly December 17, 2008 at 8:38 pm

Hi All,

I’m a coach for working moms and offer them an outlet to vent but not wallow. I speak the truth about motherhood. I want other moms to feel safe being honest about how motherhood is challenging and difficult and sometimes a miserable experience. And that this doesn’t mean that they love their kids any less.

Here are the tag lines I was thinking about so far.

The truth about the good, the bad and the hormonal sides of motherhood.

Real conversations for real moms.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

178 Michelle Adams January 27, 2009 at 5:44 pm

I am an attorney focusing on foreclosure defense and loan modifications. I do not really have a tagline, but am trying to come up with one. The company name is homeowner mediation services. what I do is negotiate on behalf of the homeowner. my mission is to preserve homeownership by creating a mortgage payment that the homeowner can actually afford. my promise is to provide a workable solution or my services are free. any thoughts?

179 Brian Clark January 27, 2009 at 5:49 pm

Michelle, I would keep that simple and action-oriented. Something like:

“I’ll save your home and reduce your payment… or you pay me nothing.”

180 Katrina Kennedy January 30, 2009 at 8:46 am

I am a facilitator/trainer/consultant and was thinking of

“workplace learning solutions to improve performance”

but it sounds a bit like a viagra tagline! suggestions?

181 Denny February 9, 2009 at 1:08 pm

@Katrina Kennedy

Few ideas…

* Moving your company forward with workplace learning strategies
* Keeping you ahead of the workplace learning curve
* Turning corporate knowledge into enterprise power

182 Jewel/Pink Ink April 12, 2009 at 1:58 am

Wow, this is a fascinating thread. I found you through a comment on Problogger. Very helpful post.

My blog name is Pink Ink and my tagline is “On life, liberty and my pursuit of ha-pink-ness”

Which is true, my blog’s my happy pill :-)

183 DInesh June 30, 2009 at 12:26 pm

Hi! I am planning to start a company which provides advice (mainly focusing on new ideas) to improve their product range. Identifying issues from consumers point of view and addressing it. Ex : How many times we struggle to re -use the celotape again . My objective is to come up with a new product impovement that will rectify that issue. I need a company name and a tag lines please

184 Zen Lo August 5, 2009 at 7:01 pm

Hi James,

My name is Reggie and i am working on starting an urban quarterly entertainment and arts magazine that explores the sub-currents in popular cultures in my country Nigeria. The name of the magazine is gonna be called Zen Magazine and i am working on some tag lines but i was wondering if their are any suggestions you can give me. I need a tagline that can draw new readers and companies to subscribe to our magazine. We are here to stay and Nigeria is kinda a virgin market. I would truly appreciate it. Zen

185 Kathy August 17, 2009 at 6:17 pm

I am the marketing & graphics director of DisposaCone as well as other products and services produced by the product developer.

My strength is graphics and occasionally I have an epiphany in the wording department…
Our product, DisposaCone, really needs a new tagline…especially since someone else recently changed their tagline to be almost verbatim.
“The world’s first disposable traffic barricade system”
In some publications where necessary, we shorten it to: The World’s FIRST disposable cone. But we need something that better describes our unique innovative product. Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated!

Compact, bright, recyclable temporary barricade

186 James Chartrand - Men with Pens August 17, 2009 at 6:22 pm

@ Kathy –

When I think safety cones, I think about “keeping safe”. Stay off, keep out, avoid, etc. And workers think of them as “Please don’t drive over this line and hit me, mmkay?”

So how about:

“Safe for you, safe for drivers – and safe for the environment, too.”

187 Kathy August 17, 2009 at 7:25 pm

Thank you!!! Yes, I think you are right… we do need to go the safety cone route. I like where you are headed.
Or how about:
Safety for the job-site, emergency, and the environment.

Hmmm, still rough…

188 Roberta Rosenberg August 17, 2009 at 7:33 pm

Something like – The Eco-Friendly to Keep Traffic Moving Safely.

It would be a bonus to get orange and green in the final tag.

189 James Chartrand - Men with Pens August 17, 2009 at 7:36 pm

Hee hee, Roberta!

“Orange for safety. Green forever.”

190 Roberta Rosenberg August 17, 2009 at 7:39 pm

@James – nifty.

191 Jon August 18, 2009 at 11:53 am

(Gawwwwd you guys are good!)

192 Roberta Rosenberg August 18, 2009 at 12:55 pm

Even better when I don’t drop words in the middle of the tag. :)

“Go orange for safety. Go green forever.”

193 Kathy August 18, 2009 at 1:24 pm

Wow! That one almost inspires me to adjust the logo colors…for our next product launch this fall. Thanks guys I really needed this!

194 Helen Howieson October 9, 2009 at 9:35 am

Hi
I really need some help, I am setting up a new division of our company in the UK, and I have had to start from scratch, ie new corporated logo, website etc but I need a tagline for Vista Foods. We supply breaded/battered chicken products from Thailand to Foodservice companies of all sizes, we have inovative products of the highest quality, no minced up muck but real white whole muscle chicken.I know its not very exciting and I think thats where I am going wrong, maybe I’m too negative!! the best I’ve got so far is ” a new vision for foodservice” trying to bring in the definition of Vista. Please help I need something wonderful by Monday. Thanks in advance. Helen.

195 Fliefeimparie October 13, 2009 at 3:18 pm

my God, i thought you were going to chip in with some decisive insght at the end there, not leave it with ‘we leave it to you to decide’.

196 Helen Howieson October 14, 2009 at 2:58 am

OK, I have been trying how about, Vista Foods “inovators with real muscle”. My boss said it was to jokey???. Can you do any better?

197 Janice Cartier October 14, 2009 at 12:41 pm

Real food. Fresh ideas. Vista.
Keep it simple. :) And clear. Like what you deliver.

198 Janice Cartier October 14, 2009 at 12:42 pm

That’s for Helen. :)

199 Helen Howieson October 15, 2009 at 3:58 am

Hi Janice
Thanks for that, unfortunatly our products are frozen and I think putting “fresh” in is a bit deceptive. hey I maybe wrong though! thanks for helping, and thanks for the smiley.

200 Janice Cartier October 15, 2009 at 2:33 pm

Vista is a view.
What view are you delivering with your real, but frozen foods that speaks to what your buyers are looking for? You mentioned innovation as being important to your brand.
What are your buyers looking for that would make them want Vista? Are you a fresh( although frozen), green, nutritional company. Are you cutting costs while delivery top of the mountain quality? What are you promising them?

201 Tammie Hollowood October 18, 2009 at 7:28 pm

I am a New Real Estate Agent trying to pick a tagline and logo and having a really hard time. I have followed this blog line for a while and there are so many great ideas out there. Nothing seems to click. I would like to use my last name as my logo as “Hollowood Homes” but can’t come up with a tagline that has purpose and heart to reach buyers and sellers. Any ideas out there???

202 David Raybould February 14, 2010 at 2:11 am

I’m going through the blogging bootcamp at the moment and this article is a great accompaniment to the course.

I’ve realised that i’ve been totally hitting the mark with the basic elements of a blog. It means going back to the basics and then working my way back up again.

This has helped me a lot. Thanks.

203 archiedelara March 6, 2010 at 7:57 am

Nice and very informative post.

I hope I made a good tagline on my weblog.

Can anyone help me on this?

204 David Raybould March 6, 2010 at 3:53 pm

@archie.

My first thought “who is Archie delera?” it means nothing to me.

Transcription? Transcription of what?

You need to summarise what your blog is about for the first time visitor in one easy line.

Your current tagline doesn’t really mean anything.

“Your guide to the world of transcription”
“Transcription made simple”

The above would be better. Your name and tagline need to jump at the first time visitor. It doesn’t at the moment.

I changed my blog from:
http://www.sic-world.com with a tagline of “The Snowboard Instructors Co-operative Worldwide”.

To:

http://www.simplysnowboard.com
“Your personal guide to the world of Snowboarding”

Which is better? The second one for sure.

I hope this helps.

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