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		<title>By: KeiraAtStriata</title>
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		<dc:creator>KeiraAtStriata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you can also look at this in terms of companies leveraging both PUSH (e.g. our company&#039;s eBilling solution uses eMarketing expertise to maximize campaign effectiveness and user adoption) and PULL (we enable conversations to start from within a trusted document through the insertion of highly profiled integrating marketing (so, your e-mail delivered phone bill might allow you to click through to customer chat if you have an issue or to take advantage of a product promotion such as, high-end headset to go with the phone model you recently purchased). When I say Push vs. Pull, I am referring to the concepts as laid out in &quot;The Power of Pull&quot; - first google result gives you &quot;The Power of Pull - An Examination of Firms in the Brave New World of 21st Century Internet Economics.&quot; It is &quot;John Seely Brownʼs Stanford Entrepreneurʼs Corner Talk
of April 14 2010 and Thoughts on The Power of Pull by John Hagel (@jhagel on Twitter), JSB and Lang. Here is the link http://www.johnseelybrown.com/cookpull.pdf 

Basically, their PUSH is your IM tribe and their PULL is your Cool tribe, and I am suggesting that companies like mine, which offer both rapid ROI in terms of implementing a solution that yields strategically significant cost-cuttings (imagine what a 50% reduction in paper document production/mailing costs translates to when you are a huge credit card or insurance company sending out large statements (and, yes, those are the types of customers benefiting from our solutions). But, after achieving those results, a solution like ours also opens the door for customer-initiated &quot;personalized conversations&quot; which we refer to as &quot;transpromo&quot; (Transactional Promotion) through the use of integrated marketing tools and profiling, for example,  And  a host of new data points open up via reporting, e.g., click-rates, deliverability, response-rates, etc), enabling better business intelligence, faster.

I&#039;d love to position ourselves as a Third Tribe company and have people understand what it means!  The hybrid marriage of push and pull is what we need to bring to every aspect of our lives, including how we approach achieving global planetary stability and sustainability. It is about streamlining and automating where possible, whilst also responding effectively to both individual and collective needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can also look at this in terms of companies leveraging both PUSH (e.g. our company&#8217;s eBilling solution uses eMarketing expertise to maximize campaign effectiveness and user adoption) and PULL (we enable conversations to start from within a trusted document through the insertion of highly profiled integrating marketing (so, your e-mail delivered phone bill might allow you to click through to customer chat if you have an issue or to take advantage of a product promotion such as, high-end headset to go with the phone model you recently purchased). When I say Push vs. Pull, I am referring to the concepts as laid out in &#8220;The Power of Pull&#8221; &#8211; first google result gives you &#8220;The Power of Pull &#8211; An Examination of Firms in the Brave New World of 21st Century Internet Economics.&#8221; It is &#8220;John Seely Brownʼs Stanford Entrepreneurʼs Corner Talk<br />
of April 14 2010 and Thoughts on The Power of Pull by John Hagel (@jhagel on Twitter), JSB and Lang. Here is the link <a href="http://www.johnseelybrown.com/cookpull.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnseelybrown.com/cookpull.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Basically, their PUSH is your IM tribe and their PULL is your Cool tribe, and I am suggesting that companies like mine, which offer both rapid ROI in terms of implementing a solution that yields strategically significant cost-cuttings (imagine what a 50% reduction in paper document production/mailing costs translates to when you are a huge credit card or insurance company sending out large statements (and, yes, those are the types of customers benefiting from our solutions). But, after achieving those results, a solution like ours also opens the door for customer-initiated &#8220;personalized conversations&#8221; which we refer to as &#8220;transpromo&#8221; (Transactional Promotion) through the use of integrated marketing tools and profiling, for example,  And  a host of new data points open up via reporting, e.g., click-rates, deliverability, response-rates, etc), enabling better business intelligence, faster.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to position ourselves as a Third Tribe company and have people understand what it means!  The hybrid marriage of push and pull is what we need to bring to every aspect of our lives, including how we approach achieving global planetary stability and sustainability. It is about streamlining and automating where possible, whilst also responding effectively to both individual and collective needs.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe &#039;they&#039;ve got the Steely Dan T shirts&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe &#8216;they&#8217;ve got the Steely Dan T shirts&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: On Community: the unsung power of Internet communication &#124; Low Hanging Fruit Communications</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Community: the unsung power of Internet communication &#124; Low Hanging Fruit Communications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the Remarkable Marketing Blueprint, I now count some of the internet’s best “third tribe” style marketers among my friends.  I  also have a place to go to test new ideas, get advice, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the Remarkable Marketing Blueprint, I now count some of the internet’s best “third tribe” style marketers among my friends.  I  also have a place to go to test new ideas, get advice, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is a pretty powerful post. Everyone has a lot of interesting input. I am not sure which kid I would be considered but I will work on being part of the third tribe.  

I started getting involved in social media about 2 years ago and have learned that being a salesman in your social media don&#039;t work. So I have learned to join  like minded groups and this works quite well. Like someone said earlier don&#039;t waste to much time on social media and spend more time on SEO. This way people look for you and it makes it a lot easier. Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is a pretty powerful post. Everyone has a lot of interesting input. I am not sure which kid I would be considered but I will work on being part of the third tribe.  </p>
<p>I started getting involved in social media about 2 years ago and have learned that being a salesman in your social media don&#8217;t work. So I have learned to join  like minded groups and this works quite well. Like someone said earlier don&#8217;t waste to much time on social media and spend more time on SEO. This way people look for you and it makes it a lot easier. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tradução: &#8220;A Sua Tribo Está Te Atrasando?&#8221; &#124; Focus Synergy Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tradução: &#8220;A Sua Tribo Está Te Atrasando?&#8221; &#124; Focus Synergy Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Você pode ler o artigo original em inglês aqui. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Você pode ler o artigo original em inglês aqui. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David @ Buy Books</title>
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		<dc:creator>David @ Buy Books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 04:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister has twice the number of Facebook friends as I have. She has invested a considerable amount of time building relationships and enjoying every minute. This is being done purely from a social context - there is no selling of anything, except for the occasional barter arrangement (i.e. no money involved).

I, on the other hand, went into social media with the objective to build relationships for the express purpose of promoting my web properties/ventures. Nothing hidden as this is clearly stated. Not surprisingly, I attract many B2B types e.g. Intermet Marketers, SEO types.

It is not surprising that when I post my material on my Buy Books Smartphone App, I don&#039;t get much interest. Most of my Facebook friends are &quot;sellers&quot;, not &quot;buyers&quot;. I have some interesting interactions with these Facebook friends which I value but trying to translate that into interest to buy books through my affiliate program - well, that is a work-in-progress.

Then my sister suggested I post on her wall. I am still hesitant to post on other&#039;s walls because I don&#039;t like pushing. I like to put things of value out there and let people choose them - I am not a salesperson. I peddle information and knowledge well but not products. Since she knew the mindset of her friends, she posted &quot;The LEGO Ideas Book&quot; and one friend bought the book!

Although it is interesting to read and learn about all this social media marketing stuff, I am beginning to realize that my time is better spent elsewhere, such as working my SEO for search engine visibility. On the side of social media marketing (and marketing in general), I am looking for affordable marketing campaigns from the experts who know how to do it.

The Cool Kid with 4999 Facebook friends and 34,278 Twitter followers - I would like to make an offer to that person to double his/her bank account to help market my Buy Books Smartphone App.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister has twice the number of Facebook friends as I have. She has invested a considerable amount of time building relationships and enjoying every minute. This is being done purely from a social context &#8211; there is no selling of anything, except for the occasional barter arrangement (i.e. no money involved).</p>
<p>I, on the other hand, went into social media with the objective to build relationships for the express purpose of promoting my web properties/ventures. Nothing hidden as this is clearly stated. Not surprisingly, I attract many B2B types e.g. Intermet Marketers, SEO types.</p>
<p>It is not surprising that when I post my material on my Buy Books Smartphone App, I don&#8217;t get much interest. Most of my Facebook friends are &#8220;sellers&#8221;, not &#8220;buyers&#8221;. I have some interesting interactions with these Facebook friends which I value but trying to translate that into interest to buy books through my affiliate program &#8211; well, that is a work-in-progress.</p>
<p>Then my sister suggested I post on her wall. I am still hesitant to post on other&#8217;s walls because I don&#8217;t like pushing. I like to put things of value out there and let people choose them &#8211; I am not a salesperson. I peddle information and knowledge well but not products. Since she knew the mindset of her friends, she posted &#8220;The LEGO Ideas Book&#8221; and one friend bought the book!</p>
<p>Although it is interesting to read and learn about all this social media marketing stuff, I am beginning to realize that my time is better spent elsewhere, such as working my SEO for search engine visibility. On the side of social media marketing (and marketing in general), I am looking for affordable marketing campaigns from the experts who know how to do it.</p>
<p>The Cool Kid with 4999 Facebook friends and 34,278 Twitter followers &#8211; I would like to make an offer to that person to double his/her bank account to help market my Buy Books Smartphone App.</p>
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		<title>By: JP Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 04:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must admit that I use the yellow highlighter at times but only when trying to sell a product that I feel is going to benefit a customer. I intersperse the sales effort with putting up original content on my sites or trying to produce something that will interest people.
Have recently tried  blog curation with a new site called A1Social.com and got some pretty decent results. One month after indexing the site stats show 110,000 impressions, 4,995 queries, 1000 clicks and a Google PR of 1. The site offers interesting news from many sources and has a small amount of ads. I work very hard to make it readable for surfers and also on the proper SEO for the search engines.
I am trying to be part of the Third Tribe and believe that there are many others like me try to eek out an existance in the black hole of the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must admit that I use the yellow highlighter at times but only when trying to sell a product that I feel is going to benefit a customer. I intersperse the sales effort with putting up original content on my sites or trying to produce something that will interest people.<br />
Have recently tried  blog curation with a new site called A1Social.com and got some pretty decent results. One month after indexing the site stats show 110,000 impressions, 4,995 queries, 1000 clicks and a Google PR of 1. The site offers interesting news from many sources and has a small amount of ads. I work very hard to make it readable for surfers and also on the proper SEO for the search engines.<br />
I am trying to be part of the Third Tribe and believe that there are many others like me try to eek out an existance in the black hole of the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: colorado divorce attorney</title>
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		<dc:creator>colorado divorce attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honesty, the cool kids aren&#039;t there for the money and if they are then they are IMers. So these tribes will remain parallel and will neither cross nor will they meet. However, as you added, they might merge at some point in time. but factually speaking the Cool Kid&#039;s list of 5k followers will vanish as soon as they see a sales pitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honesty, the cool kids aren&#8217;t there for the money and if they are then they are IMers. So these tribes will remain parallel and will neither cross nor will they meet. However, as you added, they might merge at some point in time. but factually speaking the Cool Kid&#8217;s list of 5k followers will vanish as soon as they see a sales pitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonia Simone</title>
		<link>http://www.copyblogger.com/two-tribes/#comment-1051962</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;trick,&quot; in my opinion, is to acknowledge first and foremost that you&#039;re in business. When you start the relationship with that clear in your mind (and let folks know up front), you get less pushback.

Whatever you do (even if you never sell anything), someone will complain, so that&#039;s just part of the deal. But when you provide lots of value while acknowledging that you have a business to run, the balance gets easier to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;trick,&#8221; in my opinion, is to acknowledge first and foremost that you&#8217;re in business. When you start the relationship with that clear in your mind (and let folks know up front), you get less pushback.</p>
<p>Whatever you do (even if you never sell anything), someone will complain, so that&#8217;s just part of the deal. But when you provide lots of value while acknowledging that you have a business to run, the balance gets easier to find.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really would like to understand how the relationship helps you in business. What I mean is that if you build your village and create a great relationship. As you said someone is going to be upset when you try to create a living by offering something to buy. I do understand the balance however I do not understand the happy medium level you get to creating success on all accounts. So I am really looking forward to seeing  how all this creates you that business that allows you to really help someone with their problem while making a living to help you with your problem. I truly want a business that makes a difference and help pay my kids tuition. A true win win. 

Thank you Sonia and Brian for a refreshingly new kind of Newsletter,

Pamela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really would like to understand how the relationship helps you in business. What I mean is that if you build your village and create a great relationship. As you said someone is going to be upset when you try to create a living by offering something to buy. I do understand the balance however I do not understand the happy medium level you get to creating success on all accounts. So I am really looking forward to seeing  how all this creates you that business that allows you to really help someone with their problem while making a living to help you with your problem. I truly want a business that makes a difference and help pay my kids tuition. A true win win. </p>
<p>Thank you Sonia and Brian for a refreshingly new kind of Newsletter,</p>
<p>Pamela</p>
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